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Westminstenders: Dissolved.

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RedToothBrush · 06/11/2019 19:44

Parliament has formally been dissolved. We are now officially in an election period including purdah and spending limits. Not that all the parties haven't got campaign material out already to bypass the rules, making the rules a complete farce. And the government has made some very dodgy adverts about the fund for towns, 90% of which just happen to be marginals.

The Tory Campaign has got off to an interesting start with a dead cat dog whistle against Grenfell where many well educated people lived (Inc an architect), privately owned their property and just happened to be white. And fast asleep. I'm not sure about you but I don't tend to have huge amounts of 'common sense' when I'm snoring.

Apologies have of course been made. In true Trumpian / Bannon style. But the whistle was blown and made its desired point to its target audience. Expect many more examples before we get to the end of this campaign.

Of course the same day it was made public that the government have blocked the publication of a report into Russian Electoral Interference. Which is in no way connected to the massive amount of donations the Tory Party has been receiving lately and who Boris Johnson hangs out with.

This election is all about breaking 'The Red Wall' and the Tories taking Northern seats. So everyone between Birmingham and Cumbria is going to be particularly fed up by 12th December at people from London coming out with ridiculous stereotypes, and telling them how to vote. We await Corbyn and Johnson adopting flat caps and vowels whilst drinking a pint of bitter or mild.

As usual we've had the candidate selection process throw up a few curve balls including forcing cabinet minister Alun Cairns to resign as Welsh Secretary on the day the tories launch their campaign. Its become very clear from the list of Tory MPs who aren't standing that the party has officially split and 'one nation conservatism' is merely now a slogan Johnson throws around to pretend that the hard right of the party hasn't slung out or forced out all the moderates. On the Labour side we have the usual rows at factions in local parties fighting or being really upset at a London candidate being parachuted in.

Farage isn't standing but the Brexit Party apparently is, despite calls for an electoral pact with the Tories. Whether local parties get the memo from Leave.eu and CCHQ we will find out in time. The LDs, Greens and Plaid seem to be consolidating a Remain pact in some seats but this still splits the vote with Labour which will be a problem in some areas.

Johnson is apparently standing in Uxbridge. This does leave us with the possibility he could yet lose his seat. Swinson's seat is also far from a safe one. Corbyn will likely be safe but Islington did back the LDs as the 1st Party at the Euros with the assistance of some very pissed off Labour members.

Nothing is certain about the next 6 weeks apart from the fact it will throw up some shocks and leave us all shouting at the telly at some point.

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BigChocFrenzy · 07/11/2019 20:41

I think it was because Watson was in such danger of losing his seat,
for the reasons I posted upthread

Losing would have been leaving as a political failure, his own Portillo moment of shame
So he jumped instead

In the end, it was all about him ....

JustAnotherPoster00 · 07/11/2019 20:42

Beth Rigby
@BethRigby
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Nick Conrad in his own words.

“Women need to be more aware of men’s sexual desire.. when you’re about to engage in sexual activity there’s a huge amount of will and intent and it’s very difficult for many men to say no”

If you yank a dogs tail don’t be surprised when it bites

Me150267 · 07/11/2019 20:44

I live in an ex mining community which received far more from EU than contributed. Sorry but people here are so bloody stupid actually spouting "coming over here and taking our jobs". I am so ashamed but my constituency was cynically targeted by ukip and will undoubtedly be by brexit. Will vote labour but they are silent so far, don't bloody take us for granted.

Mistigri · 07/11/2019 20:46

Poster fucking hell, that's grim.

They're all as bad as each other on women's issues? Really? Hmm

Hoooo · 07/11/2019 20:48

poster

Fucking hell.

Mistigri · 07/11/2019 20:51

I don't especially like Tom Watson but I think that's way off the mark BCF.

Personally I think that Watson has been marginalised for a long time and that his departure is not really that important. Starmer is far more important and increasingly credible (and I say that as someone who warmed to Starmer very slowly).

JustAnotherPoster00 · 07/11/2019 20:53

I know beyond disgusting, I'll admit I do enjoy it when purdah applies

TheElementsSong · 07/11/2019 20:57

I'm voting labour elements and I give not one rubbery fuck what you think about that.

Umm... good? Confused

Did I say something about not voting Labour? Confused

Mistigri · 07/11/2019 20:58

More on Nick Conrad.

@KirstyStricklan

"This prospective Tory candidate is the guy who said women should ''keep their knickers on'' to avoid being raped. The same man who (falsely) claimed the BBC were going to report me to the police over my petition to have him sacked unless I took it down."

"In a series of late night messages to my personal facebook account, he made wild claims about how the BBC were monitoring me because of my petition and had scheduled a meeting to talk about police/legal action. He advised me to seek the advice of a lawyer."

"Over the course of a few days I tried getting in touch with somebody at BBC Norfolk to find out if his claims were true. After being hung up on and belittled, I eventually spoke to the controller of the BBC, who told me there was no such police/legal action being discussed."

Lovely chap! Party of law and order doncha know!

TheElementsSong · 07/11/2019 21:00

Oh, and Shock at the Nick Conrad stuff. What an absolute piece of toerag!

ListeningQuietly · 07/11/2019 21:01

Tom Watson
was a very remain MP
in a very leave constituency
and had become the story because of the Harvey Proctor case
so its better for him and for his constituency that he does a Farage and campaigns nationally without being tied to a single seat

derxa · 07/11/2019 21:01

Oh, and shock at the Nick Conrad stuff. What an absolute piece of toerag! He's disgusting.

mrslaughan · 07/11/2019 21:02

Re Nick Conrad - will well and truly fit in with the bed Tory party - a misogynist and a bully

DGRossetti · 07/11/2019 21:07

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Westminstenders: Dissolved.
DGRossetti · 07/11/2019 21:17

And fears about weather affecting election turnout ... it is storm season

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50333233

Heavy rainfall has left the streets of Sheffield flooded and hundreds of people stranded in a shopping centre.

One contractor said the rain in South Yorkshire was "not far from biblical".

(contd)

DGRossetti · 07/11/2019 21:19

and disturbing stories from elsewhere:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-50332167

The mayor of a small town in Bolivia has been attacked by opposition protesters who dragged her through the streets barefoot, covered her in red paint and forcibly cut her hair.

(contd)

Jason118 · 07/11/2019 21:24

Wetherspoon's lambasted for Brexit beermat campaign www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50329890
Not nice but dim.

TatianaLarina · 07/11/2019 21:29

Jess Phillips and Yvette Cooper to name but two are Remain MPs in Leave constituencies. They haven’t thrown in the towel.

Frankiestein402 · 07/11/2019 21:32

Everything this thread is concerned about, from transid issues, through austerity, UC etc to brexit is / has happened under the watch of the Conservative party.

They are to blame

The fact that a lying narcissist says it will all be different if you vote for them changes nothing.

If you do what you did (vote tory) you'll get what you got (burnt hair)

TatianaLarina · 07/11/2019 21:33

I agree Watson has been slightly marginalised. That’s partly what I was referring to in saying he may feel he can’t hold his ground against the Corbyn power axis.

Starmer has navigated a way more successfully. And feels on firmer ground.

pointythings · 07/11/2019 21:35

I've had one of those Brexiteer rags. My area is very Tory, Matt Hancock is my MP. The larger towns in the area are remain, the smaller towns and villages very leave. I live in one of the latter sadly.

But hey, if the Brexit Party splits the vote here that will give me a laugh. I don't have a vote in the GE as an EU national but am watching with interest - the result could determine when DDs and I up stakes and leave the UK.

TatianaLarina · 07/11/2019 21:37

The damage is absolutely real when there are girls not going to the toilet all day and staying off school when they have their period due to trans toilets. That’s what schools are reporting.

Need to correct my typo - should say trans friendly gender neutral toilets

BigChocFrenzy · 07/11/2019 21:38

DG Did you see this disturbing story from abroad, about rightwing anti-semitism in Italy?

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50329597

An 89-year-old Holocaust survivor in Italy has been assigned police guards for protection after receiving hundreds of threats on social media.

Liliana Segre, who was sent to the notorious Auschwitz death camp at 13, has been subjected to a barrage of anti-Semitic messages in recent days.

It comes after Ms Segre, an Italian life senator, called for parliament to establish a committee to combat hate.

The motion passed despite a lack of support by Italy's right-wing parties.

Members of the nationalist League party, led by Matteo Salvini, the centre-right Forza Italia and the far-right Brothers of Italy all abstained from the vote in Milan last week.

The motion called for the establishment of an extraordinary commission in Italy to combat all forms of racism, anti-Semitism, incitement to hatred and violence on ethnic and religious grounds.

SwedishEdith · 07/11/2019 21:56

Robert Peston
@Peston
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Tory candidate Nick Conrad who made the comment that women “should keep their knickers on” to avoid rape has decided not to contest the election, to prevent further embarrassment to the Conservative Party, I am told

ListeningQuietly · 07/11/2019 21:59

Which just proves the point that until the nominations close next Wednesday
all bets should be off