Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Brexit

Westminstenders: Dissolved.

952 replies

RedToothBrush · 06/11/2019 19:44

Parliament has formally been dissolved. We are now officially in an election period including purdah and spending limits. Not that all the parties haven't got campaign material out already to bypass the rules, making the rules a complete farce. And the government has made some very dodgy adverts about the fund for towns, 90% of which just happen to be marginals.

The Tory Campaign has got off to an interesting start with a dead cat dog whistle against Grenfell where many well educated people lived (Inc an architect), privately owned their property and just happened to be white. And fast asleep. I'm not sure about you but I don't tend to have huge amounts of 'common sense' when I'm snoring.

Apologies have of course been made. In true Trumpian / Bannon style. But the whistle was blown and made its desired point to its target audience. Expect many more examples before we get to the end of this campaign.

Of course the same day it was made public that the government have blocked the publication of a report into Russian Electoral Interference. Which is in no way connected to the massive amount of donations the Tory Party has been receiving lately and who Boris Johnson hangs out with.

This election is all about breaking 'The Red Wall' and the Tories taking Northern seats. So everyone between Birmingham and Cumbria is going to be particularly fed up by 12th December at people from London coming out with ridiculous stereotypes, and telling them how to vote. We await Corbyn and Johnson adopting flat caps and vowels whilst drinking a pint of bitter or mild.

As usual we've had the candidate selection process throw up a few curve balls including forcing cabinet minister Alun Cairns to resign as Welsh Secretary on the day the tories launch their campaign. Its become very clear from the list of Tory MPs who aren't standing that the party has officially split and 'one nation conservatism' is merely now a slogan Johnson throws around to pretend that the hard right of the party hasn't slung out or forced out all the moderates. On the Labour side we have the usual rows at factions in local parties fighting or being really upset at a London candidate being parachuted in.

Farage isn't standing but the Brexit Party apparently is, despite calls for an electoral pact with the Tories. Whether local parties get the memo from Leave.eu and CCHQ we will find out in time. The LDs, Greens and Plaid seem to be consolidating a Remain pact in some seats but this still splits the vote with Labour which will be a problem in some areas.

Johnson is apparently standing in Uxbridge. This does leave us with the possibility he could yet lose his seat. Swinson's seat is also far from a safe one. Corbyn will likely be safe but Islington did back the LDs as the 1st Party at the Euros with the assistance of some very pissed off Labour members.

Nothing is certain about the next 6 weeks apart from the fact it will throw up some shocks and leave us all shouting at the telly at some point.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
23
BigChocFrenzy · 07/11/2019 22:00

JRM chaired the Privy Council yesterday
and did they discuss weighty topics ?

Um, these would weigh a lot:
6 proclamations, all about new high value bullion coins

Interesting choice of topics, JRM 🤔

e.g.
https://privycouncil.independent.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/2019-11-06-List-of-Business.pdf

  1. determining the specifications and designs for a new series of seven thousand pound, two thousand pound, one thousand pound and five hundred pound gold coins; and a new series of one thousand pound, five hundred pound and ten pound silver coins;
bellinisurge · 07/11/2019 22:01

"My response has been to suggest that they should maybe think about what they want to vote against instead."
The Tories; people who indulge antisemitism and pretend they were at the forefront of the NI peace process rather than just posing; people who can't use critical thinking on trans issues and, in my local area, MPs that promote mass house building on green belt land where the area struggles with infrastructure.
So, no one to vote for.

BigChocFrenzy · 07/11/2019 22:01

Signed nominations can be received until 4pm on Thursday, listening

tobee · 07/11/2019 22:04

Conrad no longer standing

Motheroffourdragons · 07/11/2019 22:05

This reply has been withdrawn

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ on behalf of the poster.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 07/11/2019 22:06

Its wonderful self indulgence to say you have nobody to vote for when record numbers of people are reliant on food banks.

tobee · 07/11/2019 22:07

X post with Swedish

tobee · 07/11/2019 22:09

Keep wondering if Watson might be unwell. Just because he's not led that healthy a lifestyle rather than anything

tobee · 07/11/2019 22:09

As I diabetes, being overweight for a long time etc

BigChocFrenzy · 07/11/2019 22:13

imo, he is that shallow

The Tories had been cock-a-hoop in the Sun a couple of days before that they were going to take his seat
Harvey Proctor - falsely accused in the abuse investigation - was standing against him, to embarass him

He jumped clear of the train crash

Motheroffourdragons · 07/11/2019 22:13

This reply has been withdrawn

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ on behalf of the poster.

Motheroffourdragons · 07/11/2019 22:14

This reply has been withdrawn

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ on behalf of the poster.

BoreOfWhabylon · 07/11/2019 22:15

I've thought for a long time that Tom Watson might be struggling with his mental health. He's looked increasingly unhappy.

I remember hearing him in a radio interview a couple of years ago talking about 'Nick' (before he was revealed to be a lying fantasist). Watson was very very emotional, almost in tears.

TatianaLarina · 07/11/2019 22:16

Italy is really racist, and still a bit fascista. Our architect had a picture of Mussolini on his wall. Really nice guy but wtf.

Alsohuman · 07/11/2019 22:16

Conrad’s candidacy must be the shortest in history - less than 24 hours. What was I saying a couple of weeks ago about Tory gaffes? They’re exceeding my wildest hopes.

BigChocFrenzy · 07/11/2019 22:16

When it's health or family, politicians normally say this - no reason not to, they get sympathy
they just don't give the gory details

BigChocFrenzy · 07/11/2019 22:17

I was slumming, mother Grin

Motheroffourdragons · 07/11/2019 22:20

This reply has been withdrawn

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ on behalf of the poster.

TatianaLarina · 07/11/2019 22:21

Conrad no longer standing

Hahahahaha

One would have to have a heart of stone etc

prettybird · 07/11/2019 22:22

Ds' old school has a LGBT Silver (?) Award. It converted two "visitor" loos (there might be more, but they're the ones close to the Assembly Hall so I know about them and have used them) to "gender neutral" loos. They are both single cubicle loos so it was just the sign on the doors that have changed - and both loos have sanitary bins.

There are still separate Male and Female loos.

But it's a diversion. With all the main parties essentially having the same policy on self ID (although they each try to use different elements of it to smear one of the other parties Hmm), then it is the other dangerous and damaging policies that need to be looked at and upon which a decision should be made.

Only after (and if Sad) those dangers have been avoided can we then pin down the government of the day on the need for both protection for biological women and the need to challenge transphobia (which doesn't need to be mutually exclusive except in the minds of a small subset of TRAs )

I think it's very said that this election will effectively be won or lost on negative voting: what people don't want rather than what they do want Sad.

Even those of us in Scotland who can choose for positive reasons to vote for the SNP (and I recognise that not everyone who will vote for them will necessarily support independence) won't get what they want straight away as they still have to agitate and pressurise for the Section 30 notice - and the SNP MPs will never be in Westminster Government Confused

Volvemos · 07/11/2019 22:27

True Tatiana. Look at all the abuse Mario Balotelli has had to put up with, over his whole career and in the last week or so. Not just abuse, but people denying it happened.

derxa · 07/11/2019 22:28

Starmer has navigated a way more successfully. And feels on firmer ground. How does he stand it. I salute his fortitude.

derxa · 07/11/2019 22:30

Can you imagine being Keir Starmer with a brain the size of a planet and having to deal with that leadership.

Volvemos · 07/11/2019 22:30

I thought it was an element of overall health, both mental and physical with Tom Watson.

He was facing big challenges in his seat and in the party. And even if he won, what does he go on with? The stress, long hours, travelling, sedentary lifestyle that go with a life in politics. He’s made big changes for his health, he doesn’t want to get into a fight and doesn’t want to throw his health gains away.

TatianaLarina · 07/11/2019 22:32

There are quite a few schools now that have all gender neutral toilets, causing girls stress because the boys hang out in them and try to period shame them. So some don’t go to the loo during the day making them prone to uti infections and some have reported staying off school when they have a period.