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Westminstenders: Super Saturday

999 replies

RedToothBrush · 18/10/2019 23:02

Parliament sits on a Saturday for the first time since the Falklands.

A deal has been reached with the EU. Its utterly shite and worse for the UK than May's deal. It even leaves no deal as an option after transition.

The DUP don't like it. They got predictably shafted.

Tomorrow is a debate and vote on the deal. Amendments are key, in particular the Letwin amendment which seeks to close a loophole in the Benn Act and stop the Deal being adopted tomorrow, instead forcing the ultimate decision over the deal to a later date and forcing an extension.

Which the EU may or may not agree to.

There is also talk of forcing another ref via amendments but this, unlike the Letwin amendment is unlikely to pass.

The vote tomorrow looks to be very tight. The Letwin amendment passes looks likely to make Johnson fail to have the numbers. However there is talk that enough Labour MPs have decided to back the deal.

There is also a big anti Brexit march in London tomorrow (which runs the risk of having problems with the Extinction Rebellion ban). Good luck to everyone going tomorrow.

See you on the other side (which might now be on this thread!!)

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prettybird · 19/10/2019 11:34

Getting updates vicariously through Twitter (especially dh who has the Twitter feed up on his laptop while watch the rugby on the TV).

BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 19/10/2019 11:35

What time is the March?

Peregrina · 19/10/2019 11:36

The March supposedly starts at 12:00 but there is usually a lot of hanging around, and if numbers are like last time, people will still be arriving in Parliament Square at 6 pm.

prettybird · 19/10/2019 11:37

R2 News said 10am - but that was the last I heard of it.

Basilpots · 19/10/2019 11:37

I often wonder if GFA was framed as a Tory Party ‘achievement’ whether they would be a little more careful about protecting it.Confused

BigChocFrenzy · 19/10/2019 11:38

The only LDem Leaver is voting against the WA

Lewis Goodall@lewisgoodall

@normanlamb
confirms he’s voting against the deal.
........

Norman Lamb*@normanlamb*

My decision! I hope people will accept that it has been reached after a lot of soul searching and on the basis of what I think is best for the country and my constituents.

I hope we can avoid the bile and abuse on both sides which has characterised this debate.

BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 19/10/2019 11:39

Thank you.
I'm a few minutes behind on tv due to having to pause to sort ds who is a bottomless pit today.

PanemEtCircenses · 19/10/2019 11:40

How can any Labour MP or rebel Tory witness this ruthless betrayal of the DUP and (as it seems from Lady Hermon’s remarks) the entire Unionist community and trust him even one inch? I don’t know why they’re even bothering to ask for reassurances on various issues - Johnson is a liar.

prettybird · 19/10/2019 11:43

A friend has just posted this on FB: I think it sums up BJ perfectly.

He lies with such ease, words tumbling out his mouth, arms spread, hair askew. He stands before us - the ultimate snake-oil salesman. Acting the parts he wants us to believe. Blowing smoke, building mirrors, obfuscating with bloviated verbosity, but at the end of the day - he is nothing more than a liar.

Ellie56 · 19/10/2019 11:46

A lying filthy tow rag.

ZigAZigAhh · 19/10/2019 11:46

Heading off to the march now - suspect we will only be there for a short time before the DCs get restless but we will try to make the most of it!P

BigChocFrenzy · 19/10/2019 11:50

Eisenhower:
“The supreme quality of leadership is unquestionably integrity.”

BigChocFrenzy · 19/10/2019 11:52

Harry Cole**@MrHarryCole

Rebel Burt NOT voting for Letwin.. this is going to be tight.

BigChocFrenzy · 19/10/2019 11:54

This will influence others to back the WA:

Jonathan Isaby@isaby

Looks like Philip Hammond will probably back the Johnson deal

after the PM agrees to his demand that they follow the Nandy-Snell amendments accepted by the May administration to involve Parliament fully in the debate about the relationship going forward.

HeyNotInMyName · 19/10/2019 11:55

PMK

taytosandwich · 19/10/2019 11:56

97,000 people following the live feed on the BBC news website alone.

Westminstenders: Super Saturday
fedup21 · 19/10/2019 12:00

So is it still possible that BJ’s WA will pass today or are they just doing the Letwin amendment and then the Tories are leaving if that passes?

prettybird · 19/10/2019 12:00

Hammond is a fucking idiot fool then, if he believes anything that BJ says. Angry BJ will say anything (doesn't even bother crossing his fingers because otherwise they'd be permanently crossed) to get what he wants and then ignore what he said. Angry

Viz: what he told the DUP at their conference. Hmm

TokyoSushi · 19/10/2019 12:07

Lots of talk about the vote 'tonight' in the commons, is the timetable slipping significantly? Just trying to plan my day!

YeOldeTrout · 19/10/2019 12:07

I'm on Parliament.tv.

Basilpots · 19/10/2019 12:11

Ed Vaizey, Purged Tory asks a sharp question. If Letwin passes and bill comes in next week, and passes by Oct 31st, then we leave on Oct 31st. If it doesn't pass, bill comes through, and doesn't pass by Oct 31st, we leave with no-deal. Yes or no? from Ian Dunts feed.

The answer is Yes. Obviously.

MockersthefeMANist · 19/10/2019 12:21

Keir Starmer is the Guv'nor. Fighting slogans with facts.

FlagOfStars · 19/10/2019 12:24
This is excellent!
wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 19/10/2019 12:26

Befuddled PMK

FlagOfStars · 19/10/2019 12:27

Should add for context it is the Boris Bop (take-off of Vossi Bop)