Westminstenders: DUP says no

[TheMShip]

I don't really feel qualified to start a Westminstenders thread but we need a new one....

Cendrillon I refer you to TheElements upthread. I think it says it all.

What a lovely dog yolo!

Juncker has said no extension and Bojo has said Deal or no deal.

Looks like we’re screwed.

Yaha fedup

I wasn't in favor of voting for Independence last time.
I'm not particularly in favor of Nationalism full stop.
But one reason given for voting no was that it was stupid to jeopardize Scotland's place in the EU.
Nowhere was the possibility of leaving the EU in this crazy way even hinted at.
There are consequences to choices and one consequence of Brexit is that the Union is weakened. It was always clear this would be an outcome of this choice.
Whether it is weakened enough to be dissolved completely is unclear but it was always a possibility of choosing to Brexit.

It has to come to head sooner rather than later, we cannot keep kicking the can down the road it’s no good for us or the EU, we need a decision one way or another

Farage:-

Totally distracted by the cuffs in this picture
Whose suits did Steve Barclay and Bozo borrow ?
Only Barnier's seems to fit

fedup

There seem to be a few interpretations of what has been said/meant. This is a bit more hopeful, but no way of knowing if true:

twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1184825376603824128

dreichsky It just seems that the SNP are trying to go down the same route that they are moaning about the U.K. doing,

Quick PMK, will catch up later

I can't keep up.

Am I right that, apart from those MPs who've taken up their seats in Westminster, the only time NI will get to have any say about this is after it's happened?

Did I miss it requiring their approval?

Bloody Nigel Farage.

Is it going to be No Deal and riots then?

Triglesoffy Why riots, no deal is what he and his supporters want

Really sorry about today.

My day has not exactly gone as planned. I've been out since 9am and literally not had a break all day and just walked back in the door from picking him up from school.

So we have a Deal

No we have NOT got a deal.

It is NOT a deal until it is approved by parliament

Keir Starmer @Keir_Starmer 1m
Labour cannot support this deal. If Boris Johnson has confidence in his deal, he should put it back to the people in a public vote against remain - and that is an argument we will be making on Saturday. 10/

The idea that we are home and dry is bullshit.

Far from it.

No. It is the 27 countries who decide on an extension ( if we seek one) not Barnier.
Faridge will have to find something else to wank about.

Don't believe Juncker about no extension.... Still could happen imho.

Here's the full Keir Starmer thread

Keir Starmer @Keir_Starmer
Excuse the long thread, but I have looked carefully at the #BrexitDeal negotiated by Boris Johnson. Here is my analysis: 1/

Labour’s concerns with Theresa May’s deal were not principally about the backstop. They were about the Political Declaration and our future relationship with the EU after Brexit. 2/

Having reviewed what has been agreed, it is clear that the Johnson deal is a far worse deal than Theresa May’s deal. It paves the way for a decade of deregulation. It gives Johnson licence to slash workers’ rights, environmental standards and consumer protections. 3/

Rather than strengthening the Political Declaration (PD) along the lines Labour argued, the political direction of travel under Johnson is to a distant economic relationship with the EU. It rules out a new Customs Union and a close future relationship with the Single Market. 4/

This inevitably means there will be new trade barriers with the EU and additional checks at borders. The PD is explicit about this. And the Johnson deal makes it easier for a Tory Government to cut rights and standards. 5/

On services, the PD offers nothing beyond the weak provisions in the Theresa May deal. Nor has there been any progress on the question of agencies and our future security relationship. 6/

The level playing field commitments are significantly weaker: no longer building on the measures in the old Withdrawal Agreement, which provided for dynamic alignment in certain areas. 7/

Instead, the level playing field provisions only last until the end of transition with a warning shot from the EU about the impact this will have on (reduced) access to EU markets. 8/

Labour will not support a flawed Brexit deal that harms jobs, rights and living standards. This deal will unquestionably do that. 9/

Labour cannot support this deal. If Boris Johnson has confidence in his deal, he should put it back to the people in a public vote against remain - and that is an argument we will be making on Saturday. 10/

Since when has Farage been a defender of the Benn bill.

It was the ‘surrender bill’ a week ago....

Farage is ridiculous!

From what I can grasp, it appears the Northern Irish Assembly will get a vote in four years time on whether NI should stay aligned with EU regulations. If they vote “no”, a solution will then need to be found within two years to prevent the implementation of a hard border on the island of Ireland. This seems like a major concession on the EU’s part - I’m surprised they agreed to it?

Thanks, Mship💐

Sorry, I've been out all pm until now

Westministenders' Abbreviations:

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eureferendumm2016/3492426-Westministenders-Abbreviation?msgid=84503730

RedToothBrush Don’t you think that Saturday should be the day the MPs do their job and vote for one thing or another, it’s doing no good just going on and on

Thank you to both Bigchocfrenzy and redtoothbrush
It shows what a wonderful forum you have created that it carries on even when you are both getting on with your real lives

It paves the way for a decade of deregulation. It gives Johnson licence to slash workers’ rights, environmental standards and consumer protections.

Christ - Keir Starmer is talking like Labour won’t win an election in the next ten years now. Depressing.

Stupid attempts at deregulation unlike peace in NI can be clawed back.

Please don't apologise Red!