The Brexit Arms

[BrexitArmsLandlady]

🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

Go BoJo!
Go BoJo!
Go BoJo!
Go BoJo!

So near & yet so far..............

🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

Lady Hale has been showing off her bias

YY - I saw that the other day

'Girly swot spider-woman takes down the Hulk' is amusing as a headline or similar, but when the supposedly impartial judge is using it herself in a presentation, it stinks

What is it specifically that you have a problem with?

I think I've been as clear as I possibly can be tbh re what, specifically, I have a problem with

Boris is ignoring that protecting peace has to come first.

And so are a significant number of leavers. I am so scared, sad and angry that England have inflicted this mess on the island of Ireland and NI.

(I am in England, I am very much aware that everyone else is paying the price for England's voting)

You have a problem with the courts ruling on constitutional matters and enforcing their rulings?

But that is what the courts are for: to interpret law and, if necessary, enforce it.

But see my attached pic of Jo Maugham's latest manoeuvring whereby 'they' are formulating a case to "enable an illegitimate, squatting Prime Minister to be removed from Number 10"

Which you have taken out of context - the previous threaded tweet referred specifically to reports that Johnson might refuse to resign and Leave No 10 if he loses a VoNC and a caretaker PM is agreed, or if he is found in contempt of court over the Benn Act.

In which case, he most definitely would be a squatting and illegitimate PM.

Second part of the news report.

Dusty you don't have any issues if BJ dimes what he threatens to in this article? Is that Democracy?

You have a problem with the courts ruling on constitutional matters and enforcing their rulings?

I have a problem with rich people with an agenda using the courts to effect their own ends (in this case, removing BJ), when Parliament has the tools, powers & opportunity to do so yet is choosing not to.

If parliament were being blocked from utilising its powers of removal of BJ then the courts would have a place in this, but it is not.

I really cannot be any more explicit than I have been tbh

Cummings is playing silly games.

I do not think that BJ would do what he has threatened to do.

He is just trying to manipulate people.

Parliament has thus far refused to utilise its power to remove BJ & govt

Until Parliament steps up & does its job, no amount of 'ifs', 'buts' & 'mights' are of any consequence, nor do they have any basis.

Cummings is playing silly games.

I do not think that BJ would do what he has threatened to do.

He is just trying to manipulate people.

And that is politics.
It has ever been thus.

The opposition parties are doing exactly the same but in different ways.

They are all as bad as each other.

As soon as the extension is secured, time for an election.

I have a problem with rich people with an agenda using the courts to effect their own ends (in this case, removing BJ)

So you’re saying that courts shouldn’t be involved if the PM is behaving illegally or unlawfully?

Because that is exactly the situation that Maugham is referring to.

As soon as the extension is secured, time for an election.

I agree.

I think a GE before the end of Oct (when first offered) would have been better, but now it is inevitable that extension will be granted and so there should absolutely be a GE straight after

Sadly, the anti-Brexit opposition are resistant to a GE for myriad reasons so it may not be that simple

So you’re saying that courts shouldn’t be involved if the PM is behaving illegally or unlawfully?

He is not, at this time, doing either so Maugham et al need to keep their snouts out & stop grandstanding

If he breaks the law then it is up to Parliament to depose him via VONC or GE

If he blocks them from doing so, then there is a case for the courts

BJ does not command a majority in the HoC - it would be an unbelievable scenario whereby parliament could not act against him

If he breaks the law then it is up to Parliament to depose him via VONC or GE

If he blocks them from doing so, then there is a case for the courts

and Johnson losing a VoNC and refusing to step down is exactly what Maugham is prepping for. Because that is what is being talked about to the press by No 10 insiders.

and Johnson losing a VoNC and refusing to step down is exactly what Maugham is prepping for. Because that is what is being talked about to the press by No 10 insiders.

And that, my dear, is politics

And Maugham grandstanding & other associated idiots ramping up their hysteria is playing to the crowd & reinforcing the 'BJ against the elite' narrative - precisely the strategy that Cummings has been enacting

Everyone is playing their parts to perfection

Dusty surely that pleases you then?

It will win Johnson votes at the next election?

I don't know how you can say the Maugham is being undemocratic though. If the circumstances that are being discussed by No 10 prevail then surely the courts need to get involved if Parliament is ignored?

And that, my dear, is politics

Nope. That, hun, is acting unlawfully.

Nope. That, hun, is acting unlawfully.

Briefing the press is acting unlawfully?!

I respectfully disagree with you on that point sweet cheeks

Boris is the one briefing the press unlawfully by saying that the UK is leaving the EU on 31 October, deal or no deal when he knows that he won’t be able to leave without a deal.

Dusty surely that pleases you then?

It will win Johnson votes at the next election?

I want a Tory win, yes, but it doesn't 'please me' at all that the line between courts & politics are being blurred

It doesn't please me that the current Parliament are refusing to give way & are blocking a GE

It doesn't please me that opposition MPs are holding the minority govt hostage & refusing the electorate the opportunity to reconfigure Parliament (our right)

It doesn't please me that that the 'people vs Parliament' narrative is becoming so entrenched in society because this is a dangerous path to be on

Boris is the one briefing the press unlawfully

😂😂😂

Briefing the press unlawfully 😂😂😂😂

and Johnson losing a VoNC and refusing to step down is exactly what Maugham is prepping for. Because that is what is being talked about to the press by No 10 insiders.

^^
And that, my dear, is politics

My point being that Johnson refusing to step down would be unlawful. Not “politics”.

Or are deliberately trying to misunderstand that point?

Dusty what you seem to be upset about is the idea that the Court can act before Johnson does something unlawful and so as to prevent him doing it. But the Court has had such powers for hundreds of years. For example, if I make clear that I intend not to perform my contractual obligations, the other party to the contract is entitled to damages from me, or an order from the Court to compel me to perform, even although I haven’t yet actually done anything to breach my obligations because the agreed time for performing them hasn’t yet arrived.

This is really not new or subversive - it’s English & Welsh legal system 101 stuff. I think Scottish law is the same (don’t know about Northern Irish law, sorry).