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Just appeared on Twitter - Arlene Foster rules out regulatory checks between NI and GB on anything other than agricultural goods. Also very clear she could not accept dual customs status for Northern Ireland, with it in both the U.K. and EU customs unions

DUP are a busted flush.

To cite my earlier example, Scottish shellfish producers reckon they can get live crabs to China more reliably than to the EU in the event of border delays. I imagine this will also be true in reverse for fruit and veg coming from Africa and South America.

Yeah. Fuck the environment.

I'm not a huge fan of lettuce.
I could grow it I prefer rocket

What does 'more reliably' mean in the event of border issues with the EU ? How are they transporting live shellfish to the EU currently and how are they going to get them to China ?

Frumpety lorry and ferry to EU. Flight to China. They trialled it with projected border delay straight after vote in 2016 and found had to sell them dead which reduces the price massively. Therefore elected to invest in Chinese market instead. Now already committing to just selling into China and rest of Far East instead. Just one example but I'm sure there are others. Didn't explain on the programme but I assume flying to EU doesn't work because airports and fish markets are not connected? I would guess size of selling market and relative competition and pricing stability are also factors.

Once you are North of M25 the calculations on logistics are different. It is prohibitively expensive and time consuming for me to use the Channel tunnel rather than flying and once I'm on a plane anyway ....

"Once you are North of M25 the calculations on logistics are different. It is prohibitively expensive and time consuming for me to use the Channel tunnel rather than flying and once I'm on a plane anyway ...."
Pretty certain mpg are the same here in the North as down south. And that China is more or less as far away from Fleetwood as it is from Chatham.

Therefore elected to invest in Chinese market instead.

It’s also taken 2 years and cost several hundred thousand pounds to break into that market. Not all small companies will be able to raise the capital for that kind of investment.

Just listening to Javid on R4 Today. If we No Deal there will be a "significant economic response ". So where will we get that money from and abide by all the spending promises the Tories have made?
That's what a con sounds like.

But there is no sense to any of it.

As we well know now, all of this was never about the EU, sovereignty, straight bananas, or blue passports.

It was/is a con and we have to own up to that fact. Otherwise we will be poorer (well, most of us) and have restricted civil and economic liberties.

Yes Belli, Con spending promises are already 50 billion and rising, without any no deal brexit spending.

Will have to be paid for by more borrowing and higher taxes OR won't happen.....but Boris never lies, so i'm expect 2 new hospitals for Devon and Cornwall.

Utter madness.

You can go after Corbyn for all sorts (and I do because he's a knob) but the magic money tree argument is dead in the water.

You can go after Corbyn for all sorts (and I do because he's a knob) but the magic money tree argument is dead in the water.

It is valid argument because his policies don’t stack up economically, however, neither do the Tories.

I'm not a huge fan of lettuce.
I could grow it I prefer rocket

Just popping in to express admiration for the cryptic poetry on this thread and relief that we are all keeping our eyes on the ball...

Imnotthrowingawaymyshot

I'm not a huge fan of lettuce.
I could grow it I prefer rocket“

Is that you, Dave Gorman?

bellinisurge

Just listening to Javid on R4 Today. If we No Deal there will be a "significant economic response ". So where will we get that money from and abide by all the spending promises the Tories have made?
That's what a con sounds like.”

As well as effectively calling Charlotte Edwardes a liar.

Sky news - Dominic Grieve has said Boris Johnson could be “dismissed” by the Queen if he fails to abide by the Benn Act and ask the EU for a Brexit extension by the date the law demands.

Asked what would happen, Grieve said: “He would be taken to court … I suspect the courts could deal with it very quickly,” he told Sky News.

Asked what would happen if Johnson still ignored the law, the expelled Tory MP said: “At that stage the cabinet secretary and the civil service would refuse to work for him.

“He’ll be out in five minutes. He’ll be dismissed.”

Dismissed by the Queen?, asks Adam Boulton. “Yes … It’s a rather hypothetical position. If he intends to continue behaving in this completely ludicrous fashion, yes, perhaps.”

Once you are North of M25 the calculations on logistics are different.

What?

The trade off referred to might conceivably be true for some small volume, high value products (eg luxury food products sold in China) but as a general statement it's most certainly not true. For most volume manufactured goods, shipping by air is not economic except in emergencies (ie where the risk of losing business and being sued makes it worth the extra £££) and shipping by the long ferry routes is not sufficiently rapid/reliable (plus these routes would quickly reach capacity if everyone tried to do it).

We're telling our customers that we think shipment times to Europe will increase by 9-11 days on average (obv to be mitigated by locating inventory in the EU + relocating some manufacturing jobs to Europe).

"Very irresponsible to try and drive the narrative of "Parliament against the People" johnson seems to be wanting to bring people out onto the street, where will that end?"

It's a shame for him that his water cannon aren't working anymore.

Give the D Grieve interview on Sky this morning, AND Queen asking for advice on how to rid us of Johnson, AND behaving unlawfully, AND showing no evidence of negotiating with EU, AND being referred to police for misusing funds as Mayor, AND accused of sexual molestation, AND refusing to say how exactly he will avoid behaving unlawfully in the weeks to come, AND purging the Conservative Party of the relative grown ups, AND it being revealed he has a direct financial interest in fucking up the country....

it's curious as to why there is not a smidgeon of 'challenge' to him within the Conservative Party at all.....

of course some will see him as the leader who will deliver Brexit, but there MUST be a very large section who are wondering "where the hell is this shyster taking us?"

Sorry, just read the whole thread....

A couple of things: doubletrouble Iceland grows stuff under glass because the energy is practically free.

Did you not notice, on your trip, that you're basically hiking on a volcano?

Second: Oh, how the 'Leave' vote wasn't Leave Means Leave at all! Silly us! It transpires to mean 'A Soft Brexit'! That's what they all meant, after all! So how hysterical of us to believe, as uniformly, aggressively shouted over the past 3 years, that 'Leave Means No Deal', that's what The Peeple ' voted for! At least Remainers knew what they were voting for!

Heavens, you'd almost think that the 17.4m who voted Leave actually all entertained their own, private Brexit as they wielded their stubby little pencil on that dark day, as opposed to the reality that what they actually meant was Norway Plus. Or CU minus. Or Canada squared. Or something. But, in passing, what is this GFA nonsense? Might google 'What is the EU?', on the 24th, being, as it was, the most googled term....

The UK has proposed the creation of a string of customs posts along both sides of the Irish border as part of its effort to replace the backstop, RTÉ News understands.

The ideas, which would be highly controversial, are contained in proposals sent from London to the European Union - extracts of which have been seen by RTÉ News.

The proposals would effectively mean customs posts being erected on both sides of the border, but located perhaps five to ten miles 'back' from the actual land frontier.

The proposals would effectively mean customs posts being erected on both sides of the border, but located perhaps five to ten miles 'back' from the actual land frontier

So what happens to the land in between? Thought that in some areas the invisible border goes through villages?

An isn't demilitarised zone. Forcing ROI to break GFA with them. All worked out on the back of a fag packet.
Don't think so, Johnson.