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Westministenders: The Non Re-Opening Of Parliament

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RedToothBrush · 24/09/2019 19:40

Parliament will reconvene tomorrow, at 11.30am, as if proroguation never happened as the Supreme Court ruled that the government acted outside the limits of its power and this was therefore unlawful.

The most senior court in the UK has ruled unaminously to defend Parliamentary Sovereignity and the Rule of British Law.

Unusually for a Wednesday there will be no PMQ, however there will be time for Ministerial Statements, UQ and Debate under S024.
See the abbreviation thread if you are struggling with these

So tomorrow is sure to be explosive on way or another.

The Government is hitting back by questioning the Supreme Court whilst also saying they respect the Supreme Court's authority. This is an oxymoron. Its being done for political reasons and is, in its own way, a direct threat to the Rule of Law.

Robert Buckland is, again, having to do a lot in Cabinet to assert the point of the importance of the Rule of Law and how it prevents mob rule. Something that seems to keep getting forgotten by anonymous No 10 sources.

The political fallout from the ruling is sure to lead to calls for the Supreme Court to be politically elected. This has been a long term goal of parts of the hard right.

Johnson, is currently in the US, so the announcement that parliament will be back tomorrow has rather spoilt his jolly to see his mate Donnie. He will have to get on a plane smartish.

But for all the hard talk there will also be ramifications for Johnson. Whilst there will be a lot of 'nothing has changed', and there is no chance of a VoNC in the HoC being tabled by the opposition whilst no deal is still on the table on the 31st Oct, there will still be problems for Johnson.

There will be a post mortem within his own party. The next Cabinet Meeting will almost certainly be explosive. There are already attempts to set Geoffrey Cox, the Attorney General who apparently advised that proroguation was lawful, under the bus as the fall guy. This will perhaps be a deflection to try and protect Dominic Cummings, as there will be moderate Tories who will seek to use this as an opportunity to have him sacked. But more than this, its likely to result in other Cabinet Ministers being more forceful and to challenge Johnson more, both for their own political gain and for their own political protection. He will certainly be more questioned from within, about his poor judgement.

We also have him facing an investigation from the London Assembly over his conduct and suggestions of an inappropriate relationship with a busty blonde American woman.

Next weeks Conservative Party Conference is now in tatters. Whilst Corbyn has wrapped up the Labour Party Conference early to avoid a clash with Parliament being open, Johnson is stuffed. Next week's PMQ will clash with the schedule for his Party Speech. Normally parliament would be in recess for the conference season, but parliament has to vote to allow this. And there isn't a majority for the Conservatives to now be able to do this. So Parliament almost certainly will be sitting next week.

Unfortunately, the Tories are a little stuffed with their conference being held in Manchester. If (and lets face it, with the gloves off and time short) the opposition want to cause mischief, they will try and schedule crucial and embarassing debates during the party conference, to keep MPs stuck in Westminister as much as possible. And with good reason under the circumstances.

We still have the small matter of the 31st October deadline which Johnson is still sticking to saying we will either have a deal or we will leave without a deal - unlawfully.

Remember on that note, Johnson has already acted beyond his power and unlawfully on the basis of bad advice. Johnson being hulk, rather than a girly swat, relies on the advice of others more heavily than his own wisdom and experience - of which he has been exposed time and again - to be somewhat lacking in.

As a side note, its also worth reflecting on the NCA having dropped charges in relation to Leave.Eu and how the Electoral Commission has commented on this decision:
"We are concerned about the apparent weakness in the law, highlighted by this investigation outcome, which allows overseas funds into UK politics. We have made recommendations that would tighten the rules on campaign funding and deter breaches. We urge the UK's governments to act on those recommendations to support voter confidence"

In the context of an imminent General Election, this is really very concerning indeed.

Just WHO is in control? Cos it doesn't look like its Boris Johnson right now, thats for sure.

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BigChocFrenzy · 25/09/2019 20:42

Late congratulations are the best Grin

Harriet Line@HarriLine

Jeremy Hunt congratulates his Tory leadership rival Boris Johnson on becoming PM, and says:

"I hope he's enjoying doing the job as much as I'm enjoying not doing the job" Grin

MaudBaileysGreenTurban · 25/09/2019 20:42

Not only did he say that the best way to honour Jo Cox was to get Brexit 'done', but he also suggested that it was the only way MPs would ever feel safe again.

Which sounds, imo, rather like a threat.

The man is a fucking sociopath.

ashleylamp · 25/09/2019 20:42

Most handsome MP alive there.

Sostenueto · 25/09/2019 20:42

Pmk

HunkyDory69 · 25/09/2019 20:43

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ashleylamp · 25/09/2019 20:43

He’s always more deferential to womenz

BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 25/09/2019 20:44

The prorogation wasn't about Brexit...was it?

Apparently not, yet all bozo has gone on about is leaving the EU on the 31st October. He has failed to answer a single question put to him about yesterday or his general behaviour. He merely blusters and redirects to brexit. Nothing tangible about brexit of course, just that we will leave on the 31st.

NotaRealLawyer · 25/09/2019 20:44

Thanks Rafals that's the lowest thing I've heard today. Sad

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MaudBaileysGreenTurban · 25/09/2019 20:45

Marina Hyde
@MarinaHyde
Woman after woman after woman after woman has had to stand up tonight and plead with Boris Johnson to moderate his language for their own safety, and he just doubles down every time. What an absolutely hollowed-our human. Narcissism has taken it all

Caroline Flint is a Brexiteer, which probably accounts for Boris's attitude.

chomalungma · 25/09/2019 20:45

Anyone know why he was uncharacteristically restrained with Caroline Flint

She voted for the deal. Unlike Johnson

BigChocFrenzy · 25/09/2019 20:46

Reminding myself that this is what Cox said earlier today - let's see on 19 October if someone's telling porkies :

Matt Dathann@matt*dd_athan

Nick Boles asks Attorney General Geoffrey Cox if the Government will comply with the Benn Act
that requires the PM to request an Article 50 extension if a Brexit deal hasn't passed by October 19._
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Cox replies: "Yes"

BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 25/09/2019 20:47

"I hope he's enjoying doing the job as much as I'm enjoying not doing the job"**

Awesome comment from Mr Funt there Grin

I bet bozo wishes he'd never run for PM and instead had just run.

That sentence works in more way than one.

HunkyDory69 · 25/09/2019 20:48

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Belindabelle · 25/09/2019 20:48

He probably fancies his chances with her.

Sostenueto · 25/09/2019 20:48

What I have seen today in Parliament mainly Boris the animal, has thoroughly disgusted me.Angry he is purposely causing division and continues regardless.
He is a disgrace
A MORON!AngryAngry
( apologies to all)

Outsomnia · 25/09/2019 20:48

Looking at this from afar, it all seems to be one big joke to Johnson.

It is unbelievable what he is saying, and getting away with. Sigh.

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BigChocFrenzy · 25/09/2019 20:51

He's polite to those on his side

He makes implicit threats - in the HoC itself - to those who are not

That's another first for a PM, at leat since about the Civil War
A sociopath

Random18 · 25/09/2019 20:52

Do you think he has lost any more Tory MPs today or are they all too far gone?

BigChocFrenzy · 25/09/2019 20:52

Now we see how he was having such fun as Foreign Secretary when he got Nazanin a few extra years
Sociopath

unwravellingagain · 25/09/2019 20:53

There’s a Twitter thread by @nicktolhurst on the Jennifer Arcuri story. I’m inept at this on mr phone but he links it to right wing finance and Bannon.

Oh and she’s no business woman.

Thread here

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prettybird · 25/09/2019 20:53

BJCummings just denied ever using the word "Surrender" - despite having called the Benn Bill the "Surrender Bill" for the last 2+ hours Confused