If you can’t get what you want... what would you settle for? (Remainers and brexiters)

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Just curiosity really about if there’s any space for compromise given how polarized the arguement is getting. Personally I voted remain and don’t want to leave at all, but No Deal being the absolute worst outcome (in my opinion) Id be happy with us leaving with some variation of Theresa May’s deal or other compromise (well, not happy, less unhappy).
If you are pro-remain would you accept leaving with a deal to accept the risk of no deal? If you’re a leaver would your second option at this stage be to leave with No Deal or find a compromise with the EU (and if so what)?

As A Remainer I would accept Norway plus as an option - Customs Union and Single Market.

Yes, of course, the Single Market means the free movement of Labour, but since Leavers constantly tell us that they are not against immigration this really shouldn't be a problem.

At this point I'll take tm's deal and move forward with the future relationship negotiations and wider trade negotiations.

I am a remainer. I don’t want to leave. I accept that’s going to happen- but there is no version of leave that I would be happy with. There can be no compromise because, to coin a phrase, leave means leave!

I’m a Remainer, but I would have settled for Norway / EFTA, ie continued membership of the single market & customs union and maintaining an open border in Ireland, but leaving the political EU.

This would be a worse deal for the UK than we have at the moment, because it would mean that we would have much less influence than currently over EU rules, but it would still respect the result of the referendum.

Voted Remain

But at this point any outcome that means people no longer have to worry about serious impact like medicine and food shortage/price hikes and a recession

And one that also protects the Good Friday Agreement

As a leaver I would compromise on Mays WA, not happy about it but would settle for that and nothing less.

Anything less and I will be fighting and voting for a no deal.

I voted to leave EU meaning no SM and no CU. I would not be happy with the backstop. I would prefer a simple free trade agreement with EU and not happy with WA as contains level playing field and EU won't agree reciprocity for immigrants and keeps UK under EU law until end of transition. I would really like a deal but would accept leaving without a deal rather than the bloody backstop and May's Remainer deal. I don't kind paying the money but it will be less than £39 billion as since March 31st we have already paid about £1 billion every month gross so should we leave on Oct 31st it shpuld be down to £32 billion.

Everyone voted remain on mumsnet obviously.

I would settle for a free teddy bear.

I would like any outcome that restores a modicum of stability so actual problem can be dealt with (poverty, health inequality, climate change, transport infrastructure). Be that in the EU or out. I think a lot of 2016 remain voter would now compromise on TM's WA But the brexiteers have already moved on. In basically hoping for what NF was saying he wanted in 2015! So unfortunately the goal posts are evidently going to always move and I just don't think at this point the WA will deliver the stability I'm craving. I don't know what to want now 😔

N. B. Nigel garage said he wanted a WA and SM and CU in 2015

farage not garage 😆

farage garage garbage...

I can accept Norway, Norway+, EFTA, May's WA is fine for transition, too. A backstop makes huge sense. Probably other things I wouldn't mind, those are just the ones I know about.

Doesn't matter though. I voted Remain in 2016 so we are expected to STFU forever & have zero voice in the future.

A Leave that doesn't fuck up GFA. Anything else I can live with. WA did that. Something that does the same thing would be acceptable.
Interesting that it's mostly Remain voters who have responded on here. I'd like Leave supporters to be willing to meet us on this . But so many Leavers in here just seem to love trotting out why Leave is so brilliant.

I’m a remainer so no longer count as one of the people, but I would also cope with what all the leave voters were saying we would have back in 2016, so the Norway-style variations above. At a minimum anything that protects the GFA and essential supplies and services - so the WA initially would be a relief and I would not be surprised if this is what the govt have been going for by terrifying everyone with the threat of no deal

Voted Remain but as long as food and medicine supply is unaffected would settle for leave with a deal.

I agree with @HerSymphonyAndSong and think that Johnson is softening up the swiveleyed foam flecked branch of Leavers for a rebranded WA.

Interesting that it's mostly Remain voters who have responded on here.

MN seems to be 90% Remain so I was actually surprised that there have been as many Leave voters!

I voted Remain, but i would accept the WA.

As I've pointed out on Westminsterenders threads before, one of the Remain problems has always been that the starting point is the status quo.

Therefore moving towards a compromise inevitably pulls you away from the status quo towards SM and CU options, Norway , Norway plus, EFTA, or Mays WA (which leads to an uncertain destination beyond). I'd
Reluctantly settle for continued membership of the single market & customs union and maintaining an open border in Ireland. Although it's absurd giving up a leading seat at the table.. but it would be a nod to the directionless referendum destination.

But to stand a better chance of achieving a compromise at all, the remain position should pull in a more extreme direction than the status quo. This gives you wriggle room to make concessions which are then closer towards the arrangement you prefer. To that end, what I want is a temporary caretaker cross party GNU to work on the detail of a new closer relationship with the other EU member states. Instead of just having common food safety regs and basic workers rights etc we should work on much more extensive shared rules. We could share tax levels , shared education and health systems, shared criminal, property and inheritance laws etc across all 28 countries.

I think the GNU should initially work in collaboration with advice from an advisory panel of consultants (like external management consultants or non exec directors in a company). This advisory panel helping thrash out the new relationship would include Barack Obama, Angela Merkel and Donald Tusk.

I don't want to leave but I am so utterly pissed off with the situation I'm starting to now wish for hard Brexit total chaos. They've cried wolf way too much with this no deal shit. When the harsh reality of no deal Britain finally hits home we are going to finally shut up the Brexiteers and hopefully kill off the Tories for a generation. We can then beg to join the EU again with a much worse deal than the one we have now.

I voted remain.
I hoped that there would be a way of remaining. There isn't. I just want a deal now that protects NI. And for the current shower to be swept away on all sides of the house. There are no winners in any of this. If there was a second referendum I don't think the outcome would change. The entire thing was flawed in conception and delivery.

Anyone else of the opinion that all the posturing about no deal is just a way of softening up the populace to accept the WA, or a tweaked version of same? In other words, we're being groomed to accept something very damaging, but not quite as catastrophice as no deal. Still, like others on here, I'm not one of 'the people' and am expected to STFU. I'm also a citizen of nowhere, so I suppose I should just go fuck myself.
Norway Plus would have been my preferred option as it would have been a compromise for both camps, but would not satisfy the Brextremists and they, apparently, are the ones that have to be pandered to, despite the advisory nature of the referendum.

Agre @twofingerstoEverything . Just as we are all being backed into a corner, so are the rabid Believer bunch.

I think I would settle for a really good plan that allowed the UK to leave the EU without any tangible damage. Madness I know.

Two fingers, I kind of hope that in a way by now. It’s irritating but I’d actually prefer a world where Boris Johnson passes a bill that lets us leave with a deal and then gets to gloat about how great he is is (Urgh) than a world where we leave with no deal and have to bear the consequences of that. The problem is that he isn’t as clever as he thinks he is and this brinkmanship (and to be fair both sides seem to be doing this) feels so so dangerous and really divisive as well.