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If you can’t get what you want... what would you settle for? (Remainers and brexiters)

141 replies

Flopjustwantscoffee · 16/09/2019 21:48

Just curiosity really about if there’s any space for compromise given how polarized the arguement is getting. Personally I voted remain and don’t want to leave at all, but No Deal being the absolute worst outcome (in my opinion) Id be happy with us leaving with some variation of Theresa May’s deal or other compromise (well, not happy, less unhappy).
If you are pro-remain would you accept leaving with a deal to accept the risk of no deal? If you’re a leaver would your second option at this stage be to leave with No Deal or find a compromise with the EU (and if so what)?

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indistinct · 17/09/2019 07:21

Agree with frumpety. Actually would accept a deal that gives all the benefits of SM/CU plus the benefits of being outside it (aka cake and eat it) as promised in 2016.

frumpety · 17/09/2019 07:26

I was genuinely surprised back in 2016 when the referendum dust settled, that those who had apparently been agitating to leave the EU for years and years hadn't actually spent some of that time coming up with a fully formed plan. We would probably have left by now if they had bothered.

BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 17/09/2019 07:28

Whatever protects the GFA, and the vulnerable. I'm a remainer but would accept leaving as long as these two things are protected.

jasjas1973 · 17/09/2019 08:01

Never understood why we didn't move straight away to a EFTA/EAA style deal.

I guess it was because May only governed for the benefit of the Tory party.... worked out well didn't it Theresa?

We now have a hard right Govt that will not commit to obeying the law, so any compromise deal will not happen, Johnson wants no-deal and a GE where he can boast he has delivered Brexit.

MrPan · 17/09/2019 08:04

Yes, of course we are being dragooned into fearing No Deal, so that we 'accept' a Leave of some sort.

ALL Leave scenarios are bad for the country, and explicitly. There is no such thing as 'clean break'. And will be no such thing as the NHS free at the point of delivery. We've got used to the NHS 'being there' we collectively take it for granted. Brexit/Leave ends that.

So no, no compromise to populist/fascists.

berlinbabylon · 17/09/2019 08:07

As a remain voter I would accept the EEA option - ideally SM and CU, CU as an minimum.

Some people said they didn't like the way the EU had evolved into a political entity. We joined a "common market", ie a trading bloc and that's the way it should have stayed. As such, there shouldn't really be any objection among most Leave voters to staying in the CU as an absolute minimum. But I would prefer the SM as well.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 17/09/2019 09:13

When the harsh reality of no deal Britain finally hits home we are going to finally shut up the Brexiteers

Except we won't. The hardline Leavers will blame the EU, Corbyn, anyone, rather than accept responsibility.for the mess they've created.

As a remainer, I would reluctantly accept WA on the basis that anything is better than No Deal.

DioneTheDiabolist · 17/09/2019 09:20

Beheadings.
I'd settle for NI to have permanent special ecomonic status within the EU and for the lying, treacherous politicians who did this to have their heads removed from their bodies and put on pikes.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 17/09/2019 09:28

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TatianaLarina · 17/09/2019 09:43

Whatever Leave Deal we were to compromise on we would end up back in the Remain position on the long run with a far worse EU deal than we started with.

MockersthefeMANist · 17/09/2019 10:11

I remain Remain.

But I'll settle for Customs Union and a choice of passports: EU Red for the fast queue, and a blue Brexit one for those who want to stand in line for evah.

dolorsit · 17/09/2019 10:15

The WA isn't the deal. It's the agreement on how we leave.

Regardless of whether the WA is implemented we will still need to negotiate a new relationship with the EU.

Personally I would prefer CU and SM.

SalrycLuxx · 17/09/2019 10:16

Remainer.

I’d take the WA at this point. Anything to make this stop.

SalrycLuxx · 17/09/2019 10:17

And I know that that just leads on the the trade negotiations. But at least then we’d be moving forwards.

berlinbabylon · 17/09/2019 10:18

Yes and if we pass the WA or a variant of it, we can still stay in the CU and SM. All we need is Boris to sack Priti Patel, say he doesn't agree with May's red lines on immigration (which he actually doesn't) (assuming he stays PM) and it opens up the CU and more particularly SM as options.

Whathappenedtothelego · 17/09/2019 10:25

I'm a remainder. Norway style deal ok with me.
I would like to keep the customs union. I would love to keep free movement.

Parker231 · 17/09/2019 10:30

Am a remainer but would settle for protecting the GFA, freedom of people and trade.

MrPan · 17/09/2019 10:36

Of course exactly none of these 'deals' will be remotely acceptable to the ERG - so they ain't going to fly with BJ at the helm.

Mistigri · 17/09/2019 10:49

I'd be quite happy to accept a soft Brexit as being not what I want, but not fundamentally damaging to the economy and social fabric of the U.K.

As someone potentially in the front line of a hard Brexit (British migrant in EU) my personal red line is citizens' rights - which would be protected in a soft Brexit.

Mistigri · 17/09/2019 10:49

PS for the sake of the thread stats I didn't vote in the referendum.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 17/09/2019 10:58

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noodlenosefraggle · 17/09/2019 11:05

May's deal or Norway + even though neither are better than what we have now.

Parker231 · 17/09/2019 11:16

This is the problem - everything is worse than we have now

Mistigri · 17/09/2019 11:18

This is the problem - everything is worse than we have now

That's not really the point though. If everyone insists that their first choice is best & non-negotiable, compromise is impossible.

HerSymphonyAndSong · 17/09/2019 11:30

With such a close referendum result, and the subsequent GE result, there really should have been no question that brexit should be soft. But the tories went ahead with their red lines that no one voted for.