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The Brexit Arms

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BrexitArmsLandlady · 14/09/2019 02:29

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47 days to go.....

Deal, no deal or delay...???

Remainers are circling the wagons ready for their last stand....

Stand fast Brexit backers and hold the line!!

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Miljah · 22/09/2019 15:01

Nope. Not racist. Qualificationist, yes.

How come I singled out the Nigerians, but said the Jamaicans' evidently were better trained (they can at least identify the eye sockets on a sideways picture of a skull.... ) since both parties are black? Please don't cherry pick what I stated.

And I can absolutely, hand on heart tell you that my team went from 95% UK or EU trained to 50% not UK and EU trained in the past 3-4 years, howabout. We, like many in the NHS, are scouring the world for staff. We get no EU qualified staff applying. At all. Or Australians or New Zealanders, any more. Yes, some South Africans who see which way the wind is blowing, there.

And, full disclosure, the overall staff shortages in the NHS has caused , among other things (like the removal of the bursary and the hatchet job the red tops did on 'Nurses pensions causing the Crash of 2008'...)- the scourge of the NHS, incompetent middle managers, to put erstwhile mid 50s staff back onto night shift, and they've subsequently walked.

I couldn't care less what colour the new staff are, but I care a lot about how qualified they are to do the job. And, I must say, whether they can communicate effectively in English. I don't know whether you'd find it so 'absolutely awful' if it was your child who'd just received 4 times as much radiation as necessary because the person who'd taken the images evidently didn't know what they were doing.

Our Nigerians and Jamaicans have been with us 8 months and 15 months. Not exactly since the beginning of the NHS.

Please do not attempt to twist my words, drowning them out in a chorus of 'Racist!'. But I think those who cited immigration as a reason to Brexit are in for a bit of a shock.

dirtyrottenscoundrel · 22/09/2019 15:23

Are you trying to tell me Jamaicans have only been working in the NHS for 15 months?

howabout · 22/09/2019 16:02

And, I must say, whether they can communicate effectively in English

So much total BS - pardon my French. The average Jamaican or Nigerian has a far better understanding of the English language than the average non UK EU National ime

Miljah · 22/09/2019 16:27

Oh, dirty. You are funny. You should consider politics with that ability to twist words.

And howabout I didn't say the Jamaicans or Nigerians necessarily struggle to speak English effectively, although some cultural difference are still evident (which are also part of how one communicates...) but the two most recent Indians (my dept, not my unit) both are really struggling. As was a Slovakian, now gone.

You can nit pick and whaddaboutery all you like.

This is how it is.

jasjas1973 · 22/09/2019 19:19

Thought the english exam tests had been reduced in number in order to get more non eu citizens into the NHS ?

Personally i think it is wrong we are seeking to take so many medical staff from developing nations

They are needed in their own countries.

Septembersunrays · 22/09/2019 19:51

Jas, can hardly call some of former Eastern bloc countries developed.

How much has their head count gone down? Don't Poland, Slovakia, etc need cleaners etc?

Parker231 · 22/09/2019 19:54

Poland is a developed country. Also provides excellent health care and free university education. It’s economy is growing at a much faster rate than the UK.

jasjas1973 · 22/09/2019 19:59

September - obviously never been to eastern europe then? yours was a particularly sneering remark if ever i heard one but not surprising.

howabout · 22/09/2019 20:04

Miljah you must realise from your written idiom it is patently obvious that you are not a native English speaker?

jasjas1973 · 22/09/2019 20:08

Some Polish friends of mine returned to Poland from the UK 4 years ago because they didn't want to bring their yet to be born child to be brought up in the UK.

The racism they experienced here was shocking, got so bad they stopped using public transport and got a car.

Sometimes i think it is the UK that is backward and needs developing

Miljah · 23/09/2019 08:15

howabout Really, when you are reduced to cheap jibes about how 'idiomatic' a poster's English is, you're looking pretty desperate to point score.

Tone it down, hun.

I accept that I may use longer and more difficult words than some, and I accept some may feel threatened, especially if one's English ability, although native, isn't that great.

I'll try and keep it simpler for you.

howabout · 23/09/2019 08:43

I don't think it's me who is confused Miljah Biscuit

bellinisurge · 23/09/2019 09:19

Nice to see they serve biscuits in this joint. Hope they are proper British biscuits. None of your florentine nonsense.

MockersthefeMANist · 23/09/2019 09:32

Nice to see they serve biscuits in this joint. Hope they are proper British biscuits....

Oh yes. Garibaldis and Nice biscuits are nice biscuits.

bellinisurge · 23/09/2019 10:17

None of that langue du chat shit that they talk about on the so called Great so called British so-called Bake so-called Off.

Parker231 · 23/09/2019 12:33

amp.theguardian.com/business/2019/sep/23/no-deal-brexit-will-have-seismic-impact-says-european-car-industry

For those who don’t get the impact of a no deal exit on the car industry supply chain.

Miljah · 23/09/2019 19:20

howabout- no, you're not 'confused', you're wrong.

There. Plain English for you.

And sorry that now you're furiously scrolling down all 650 messages on this threat to see if there's another way to make a cheap jibe at me.

mummmy2017 · 23/09/2019 20:45

Reading about why Labour lost the remain vote at their own conference it seems yet again not enough remainers in the right place at the right time.
Everyone thought it was a forgone conclusion.
This seems to happen everytime.

Septembersunrays · 23/09/2019 22:20

I've not been to ee no, but have close family fom there.

Mummy it's incredible stuff.

twofingerstoEverything · 24/09/2019 08:20

mummy - you do realise this wasn't a simple leave vs remain vote, don't you? Hmm

mummmy2017 · 24/09/2019 08:31

TwofingerstoEverything all I know is that room looked like it had more hands up for the remain idea.
To then say, no it's another do nothing and wait , was like a WTF moment .
Even my teenager looked at me in shock .

BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 24/09/2019 11:09

Oh happy day! Thank you Supreme Court and up yours Boris! Best get your arse back to London!

time4chocolate · 24/09/2019 11:15

Time for a GE methinks.

I must say I’m looking forward (not) to another month of childish bickering in Westminster where the square root of absolutely nothing is achieved!.

boujie · 24/09/2019 11:27

So Brexiteers, how are we all feeling?

Jason118 · 24/09/2019 11:33

Even though it's still morning, I'll have a Guinness Smile

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