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47 days to go.....

Deal, no deal or delay...???

Remainers are circling the wagons ready for their last stand....

Stand fast Brexit backers and hold the line!!

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Morning ! Just a thought from the last thread which links to a poll on another thread. Apparently people are not that bothered about FOM anymore and would be comfortable if the government actually carried out the checks and balances that the rest of the EU do. If that is the case and given that so many leave voters had little issue with the being part of a trading bloc element of EU membership, how would you feel about staying in the SM and CU ?

Ah! The Brexit Arms! Where Yellowhammer and the GFA don't exist and "compromise " is a dirty word.

Clank clank clank, I hear the bell... Trundling in... Life's work devoted to following leavers around mumsnet...bashing them over a democratic vote..holding the line.

Frumpy, I think fom trust is gone I can't imagine anyone accepting it, we don't have the procedures or checks and balances to cope with it. Or the mentality.

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47 days left...30 days of which are without parliament. Lets hope that effort into resolving a deal does not reflect that ratio.

Gov has much better chance of getting a deal and sorting out no deal scenarios without endless, empty and pointless nonsense in Parliament.

Jeremy can play around with posters and soundbites for ge and its best he is kept busy in that way quite Frankley.

Asking questions isn't allowed in this pub unless you are a true BeLeaver. Someone like me who believes in compromise and accepts an orderly Brexit is actually an evil Remoaner.
Have fun getting pissed .

The best way to get a deal passed would be to thrash out the issues with the people you expect to vote for it, surely?

I agree September 

Parliament not sitting is more conducive to getting stuff done re a deal.

If it was sitting it would be full of anti-brexit chicanery & rule bending with endless hours of the same old shit being regurgitated on repeat.

Typically, 'damaging Tory brexit', 'unelected PM with no mandate', 'we need a people's vote', 'Scotland demands its independence', we want a GE but on our terms' etc etc etc

This toxic Parliament stuffed with self-aggrandising twats is its own worst enemy.

^^ beautifully put dusty

Trust has totally gone.
If only they couldn't have prorouged for longer and sooner

Sovereign Parliament elected by the people in 2017. That parliament, you might.

Frumpety, I can't speak for every leaver obvs, but for me:

Single Market - no problem

Customs Union - only if member for a strictly time limited period, to allow time for trade agreement to be struck with EU which mitigates the border issue.
Permanent membership of CU is not acceptable as it means no independent trade deals with other countries

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/14/hopes-of-clean-break-with-eu-are-nonsense-says-ex-brexit-official

Sovereign Parliament elected by the people in 2017

Elected based on each MPs words & promises.

Parliament as it is now, is not the Parliament elected in 2017.

In fact, many of the most vocal & active Brexit blockers explicitly promised to respect the result of the ref & deliver Brexit during the 2017 election.

Since then, several have switched party without calling a by-election and/or have gone completely against the promises they made re enacting the ref result.

Emily thornberry, case in point. And the many others behind her.

Wolves in sheep's clothing, meekly claiming to be Democrats who must honor the vote. Trust is gone, as said shame they couldn't all have been given some annual leave or asked to get out sooner.

I dislike Thornberry and Corbyn and the rest of them, so what.

Blimey bellini did you get out of bed the wrong side? Or do you just feel the need to poke people with a stick every so often?

Doesn't matter a jot if you, personally, like them or not.

What matters is that they stood on a promise to enact the ref & are now actively working against that promise.

@bellinisurge
BELEAVERS IRRATIONAL REACTION TO QUESTIONS SYNDROME (BIRQS): the irrational and angry reaction of BeLeavers to any question at all regarding their rationale/logic/knowledge or indeed any question whatsoever by Remainers resulting in refusal to engage at all, or else claims of being accused of being thick and/or racist even in complete absence of any such accusations.

From the last thread - It is frustrating that people like walking still don’t understand the WTO requirements relating to borders.

I get why people don’t want to acknowledge YH - because our government lies about everything so why should they believe that (other than the fact it’s probably true this time)

But the WTO requirements are indisputable - there’s no room for misinterpretation

Here we go!!

Xpost sorry - that wasn't directed at you Bear

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However if we do get GE but tory won't work with brexit party, I will vote brexit party and then probably give up and ignore brexit related issues.

Frumpety no-one has a problem with controlled immigration.

I think it is fantastic that the Govt got rid of May's deportation rules for foreign students graduating this week.

However it is disingenuous to imply that the UK could control FoM in the same way other EU States do because it would mean completely rewriting our welfare state to one based on earned rights rather than need. Most other EU states also have far higher barriers to entry to the regular labour market. Why do you think East Europeans flock to work in UK rather than Germany?

Also there is no way the rEU will hive off FoM from the single market. This is one of the glaring inconsistencies within the WA which would surely be unpicked in the PD. (Norway accepts FoM and Switzerland had to row back on their referendum to limit it)