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47 days to go.....

Deal, no deal or delay...???

Remainers are circling the wagons ready for their last stand....

Stand fast Brexit backers and hold the line!!

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Well if most of Britain is apathetic to NI then it’s probably a good argument for an united Ireland. Imagine how angry English leave voters would be if they found out how much of their tax dollars were used to prop up NI.

The MAJORITY of voters in Northern Ireland voted „Remain“. FACT

Don't remember disputing that?

Why does the smaller margins of the English (by 7%) or Welsh (by 5%)„Leave“ vote count more than the NI (by 11%) or Scottish (by 24%) „Remain“ majority?

Because UK is a single member of the EU. UK as a single member voted leave.

On your logic there would be borders around every constituency whose neighbours voted differently.

Well if most of Britain is apathetic to NI then it’s probably a good argument for an united Ireland

Go for it

Imagine how angry English leave voters would be if they found out how much of their tax dollars were used to prop up NI

Thought UK currency is sterling as opposed to dollars?

If NI reunited with Ireland and became EU, why would UK need to prop NI at all after leaving the EU?

@MysteryTripAgain

My post: „Ireland had a referendum in 1972 to join the EC. I am simply stating that the people of Ireland“ voted pro EU“

Your reply:
„United Kingdom had a referendum in 2016 to leave the EU. So I will simply state that United Kingdom is not pro EU.“

Hence me pointing out the fact, that NI majority voted „Remain“. I didn’t talk about the UK - you did!

MysteryTripAgain
France in particular are petrified of waving the white flag to the UK. It’s a hatred that goes back centuries.

France doesn't hate the UK.

Another negative of a no deal exit - the list gets longer each day. Still crossing my fingers and toes for revoke.

A no-deal Brexit will slice almost 3% from Britain’s economic growth over the next three years compared with just 0.6% from the rest of the EU, according to the OECD’s latest health check of the global economy.

“Defra is not responsible for the supply of food and drink to the population in an emergency..."

• Zac Goldsmith

www.sustainweb.org/news/sep19_grocer_brexit__food_supplies_industry/

So Juncker and the EU are prepared toopen the WA and get rid of the Backstop?
Perhaps BJ's approach has merit, though wtf Alternative Arrangements are, i ve no idea.

news.sky.com/story/jean-claude-juncker-we-can-have-a-deal-and-brexit-will-happen-11814207

Just STOP the hatred discourse, just STOP it. I am a historian and there has been nothing but collaboration in business, families and cultural history in Europe for a long time. The discourse of hatred comes from the press who wants to bend the electorate a certain way and it is part of classic scapegoat technique.

If you look at European history, it's a constant story of mobility, travel, immigration, learning form each other.

For instance just to quote what I am writing about at the moment, French potters came to the UK to develop ceramics industry so that the UK factories like Minton could equal Sevres, and their dynamic designs changed the shape of sculpture in this country - hey if your gran has a Parian ware statuette on her mantelpiece it's a good chance that its design is French (or Italian) and made by a British factory.

We are different but we are one people. For centuries we have communicated and learnt form each other

And you know what Brexiters? You can't stop the process of mobility and exchange. It's older than you and it's stronger than you. It will go on. Like it or not.

And you know what Brexiters? You can't stop the process of mobility and exchange.

Can't think of any leavers I know who want to do this.

Mobility & exchange will not stop because we leave the EU.

The difference is that once we are independent of the EU we can do these things on our own terms, with greater flexibility & autonomy.

The notion that leaving the EU will stop us from functioning in such a way is hyperbolic nonsense.

And you know what Brexiters? You can't stop the process of mobility and exchange. It's older than you and it's stronger than you. It will go on. Like it or not

We know.
Just like you’ve pointed out, people have travelled long before the EU was even created, and people will continue to travel once we’ve left.
So your point is?

So let's recap - you Brexiters guys are for mobility and exchange ad free movement? Because, boy, you are hiding this well.

The difference is that once we are independent of the EU we can do these things on our own terms, with greater flexibility & autonomy.

Chances are pretty high that you'll find imposing your own terms on others will go down like a lead balloon, flexibility will be limited by self-imposed boundaries and autonomy will in fact be a doomed stab at autarky.

If various governments have not done what you deem desirable despite not actually being prevented from doing so by the EU, why would they suddenly start to when they're backed against the wall?

Chances are pretty high that you'll find imposing your own terms on others will go down like a lead balloon, flexibility will be limited by self-imposed boundaries and autonomy will in fact be a doomed stab at autarky.

This. Unless you’ve got media influenced brain fog going on in which case I’m sure it’ll be marvellous.

my point is you are a-historic racist twats and I despise you

I suggest you might want to work on your debating/discussion skills, you’ve just let yourself down quite badly there

@time4chocolate

You know what? You have destroyed my life, hit the NHS, destroyed the life of 3 million people who live here and 1.5 million people who live in the EU. I am past caring. You keep going with your 'bantz' and your debate, I tell it how it is.

I will never forgive you.

So… we’ve just had our official Brexit advice email at work (NHS). It all starts off terribly positive (government stockpiling and planning alternative ways of getting drugs into the country). Great, I think, because this sounds better than the government-have-assured-us-it’ll-all-be-cool email we had before March. But then I read on. I’m paraphrasing, but JUST IN CASE your meds aren’t quite available, a senior clinician will be able to make a clinical judgement about suitable alternatives or a reduced dose. And JUST IN CASE that’s not an option, a pharmacist will be able to make sensible choices.

Nobody has a clue what’s going to happen, do they?

I will never forgive you

Just for the record, I don't want or need your forgiveness.

Just like you’ve pointed out, people have travelled long before the EU was even created, and people will continue to travel once we’ve left

Your point is?

Do you know how hard it was to work in Europe before the EU? so the numbers won't be there, also, Brexit has done immeasurable harm to the UK's reputation, not least with how the eu citizens here have been treated.
So, sure we'll still go on hols, it will be more expensive, fewer will go and there won't be the cooperation between the UK and european nations - has already started with UK locked out of the Galileo project.

There is life outside of Europe you know.

I just watched the Juncker interview... I can't make much sense of it.

He reckons A50 will not be revoked.
He hasn't read the written proposals that UK has made for alternative backstop.
He seems to be saying that BJ spoke out loud a reasonable plan for viable alternative backstop.
But Juncker hasnt read the written details yet.
So he doesn't know what the plan says.
We know how very much BJ likes to distort details. He says whatever he thinks listener wants to hear.

I'm waiting for Juncker to say what he's read is viable & could be accepted by EU.

Juncker did look very unhappy in the interview. Does he always look slightly miserable?

There is life outside of Europe you know.

There is, but unless the rules of basic geography change suddenly, that's not an option.

Just for the record, I don't want or need your forgiveness.

But if this all goes tits up, and your country, our country, becomes massively worse off as a result of Brexit, will you need it then?

Things really don’t seem to be going as planned I think it’s plain to see.