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47 days to go.....

Deal, no deal or delay...???

Remainers are circling the wagons ready for their last stand....

Stand fast Brexit backers and hold the line!!

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@Parker231

Boris has already said he won’t make an election pact with the Brexit party

That's to stop people thinking he will and voters migrate to other parties. If Johnson needs to form a coalition with Brexit Party to obtain a majority to overturn the Benn Act he will do it for sure.

T May found 1.5 Billion from nowhere to purchase the DUP so she had a majority in 2017.

Maybe you need to realize that Politicians tell lies.

Mystery - I’m well aware the politicians tell us lies to suit their own agenda. This is one of the reasons the UK is in such a mess - nothing to do with the EU.

Pretty shocking and might explain when you consider who gains the most.

@parkerpen

This is one of the reasons the UK is in such a mess - nothing to do with the EU

There seem to be several on MN desperate to defend the EU by saying it is all UK's error. Why is that?

If I was asked to select who has made errors it would be in the following order;

1998 to 2010 - Tony Blair

2009 - All 28 EU members when they signed Article 50

2009 to 2013 - British Irish Council

2017 - EU changed the Article procedure unilaterally

2017 - T May signed the WA in contradiction to UK law

2019 - Courts are making different ruling on the same subjects

@mummmy2017

I have said same for years.

mummmy

What is the source for that table?

Does it take account of our rebates?

It is from Twitter, seems on looking
Luxembourg does constantly gain more from the Budget than it puts in, and for a small country the EU must employ a massive amount of the country, so no wonder they hate change.

@Mummy2017

The excuse for Luxembourg and Belgium is that a lot of EU admin takes place in those locations.

Yes but it does mean that any cuts in favour of streamlining the EU would effect cash spent there .
As they have built an industry of meals, hotels and other things dependant on expenses paid for by EU
Why have a sandwich from home when the EU will pay for meal out with wine.

Again , stopping No Deal is more important than arguing the toss about the EU. Nice diversion tactics, though.

Let's wait and see what goes down
Nothing seems to go the way people think.

@BellsInEars

Again , stopping No Deal is more important than arguing the toss about the EU. Nice diversion tactics, though

The reason UK wants out is that since being a member it has tipped over 500 Billion into the EU, but still has a trade deficit with the EU.

Since formation of the Eurozone, UK as an individual Country has grown over 40%, but EU around 26%.

The 10 members that pay into the EU are carrying the 28 members that take out from the EU. A ratio of 1:3. No Country, or person, can carry three others on their back forever without becoming tired and saying they want to quit.

1. Have the courtesy to get my user name right
2. Why are you bothering still arguing the toss over why Leave is the right thing. You won't. Get over it.
3. Leave being right in your view doesn't make No Deal right. Pretending otherwise is either kidding yourself or trying to kid other people.

Of course that should be "you won. Get over it".
"You won't" is an interesting proposition.

Millions of remainers have argued that leaving the EU would result in the UK being worse off. It’s certainly panning out the way we thought.

At this point I really don’t care what the UK’s financial contribution is I’d prefer if there wasn’t food and medicine shortages. No, wait I’d prefer if the social and economic fabric of the U.K. wasn’t being torn up for no tangible reason

I am surprised that anyone would think that come 31st of October if we leave the EU without a WA in place, that that's it, its over , no more Brexit talk. This is going to go on for years either way.

Agreed frumpety which is why I am surprised that Remainers / ex Remainers / soft Brexiters are so hung up on getting A Deal / Any Deal.

However I think the same can also be said for the LibDem Remain position. Revoking Art 50 simply restarts the whole process. The genie is already out of the bottle.

@bellinisurge

Don't remember saying that leaving without a deal is the best option, but looking likely. Remember that EU are not obliged to agree to an extension as Benn Act only applies to UK Prime Minister.

BBC news are reporting that Finland and France want Johnson to make his mind up about alternative proposals for the Backstop by end of September or it is no deal. If UK is forced out be EU with no deal who will you blame then?

@Ghost

At this point I really don’t care what the UK’s financial contribution is I’d prefer if there wasn’t food and medicine shortages

Project fear raises its head again. Watch Emily Thornberry on Question Time 5 September 2019. She said on national TV that she had received numerous questions from her constituents that their Doctors had warned about medical supply shortages. What a load of lies. Doctors do not know such details. It is the pharmacies that know.

Reason I know this is mother asked her Doctor same question and she was told to speak to her pharmacist. She did and pharmacist said their will be no shortages as stockpiling has been prevented as people can only take 3 months of prescription drugs at a time. It is logged on database when people last collected their medicines to prevent anyone from trying to stockpile.

For information NHS is one of US's largest purchasers of drugs. Do you think US will stop supplying the UK in a no deal situation? Why would they do that as NHS is a massive buyer?

I will blame every single Leave voter who did nothing to stop this by lobbying for a compromise.
But I won't tell them to their face because they scare me.

This is the BBC analysis of Mummy2017 's list.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48256318

"Luxembourg tops the list of net recipients per person, because a large number of EU institutions are based in the country of under 600,000 inhabitants".

I find it difficult to think of Luxembourg as anything more than a City State operating to serve French, German and Belgian elites.

What do you think about NI, then? A bunch of people frustrating your magic dream?

I find it difficult to think of Luxembourg as anything more than a City State operating to serve French, German and Belgian elites.

Other country's sovereignty isn't real sovereignty, of course.

Do you also have a view about Ireland's sovereignty?

Luxembourg and Ireland both demonstrably exercising their sovereignty to maximum advantage to further their positions within the EU. My question would be why the objection to the UK deciding EU membership no longer best serves their sovereign aspirations? Northern Ireland is still part of the UK and under the GFA will remain so until the people of Ireland decide otherwise - no amount of attempted annexation by the EU alters that.

You're so funny.
"Exercising their sovereignty to maximum advantage". I almost spat my tea out over that one

It’s like talking to a brick wall isn’t it? Project fear? Financial jobs have already been lost, the pound has tanked causing food prices to rise. This is the tip of the iceberg not project fear. Brexit portrayed as a working class revolution when in reality it is going to be the poorest thrown under the bus.

Leavers complain about the amount of money sent to Brussels but say nothing about the billions being spent on something that will damage the UK for decades.

"until the people of Ireland decide otherwise - "
Don't you mean ROI and NI in separate referenda. That isn't "the people of Ireland " unless you know something I don't. 😂😂😂😂😂