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47 days to go.....

Deal, no deal or delay...???

Remainers are circling the wagons ready for their last stand....

Stand fast Brexit backers and hold the line!!

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What's the new phrase..

Radicalised Remainers! How true

I voted remain as I wasn't sure about the whole thing tbh. I wish I'd read up more before the vote.
DH voted Leave and is still happy with this.

DM voted remain as she thought other EU countries would go to war with us if we left?! She apparently read it somewhere

I quite fancy being radicalised , do you get a badge or a lanyard , I love a freebie lanyard. Do you need to attend meetings ? I can only commit to monthly if so. And the most important question of all , will there be complimentary nibbles and beverages ? I think people seriously underestimate the lure of a free nibble

I've no idea on either side. Maybe they cancel each other out? Who knows? Not you, or me, so stop talking shit to try to make a ridiculous point.

September - I wasn’t entitled to vote but because of the huge impact it will have I did loads of research and would have voted Remain. Now three years have past my opinion has strengthened. If Brexit happens the trade deals will be poor as there is no scope for good deals and the impact on NI and GFA is so scary.

Frumpy, no nibbles as far as I am aware but you do get a free eu berret, and Cape and flag.
You also get licence to play glockenspiel, scream through loud tannoys and sing ode to joy whilst drinking champagne and eating French cheese mournfully because you truly believe you will never access these European products again, as UK tethers it's moorings and sets sail into stratosphere...

Fluffy.... No side can say who voted for brexit because when you place a vote... It's in secret a d you don't tick or sign other stuff.

Every single prediction or work on the result has been based on... Talking shit.
Remainers have clung to this and clung to that.... But ultimately your right, no one can say who voted why for sure.

I was merely speculating after the drama based on leave campaign led by d Cummings said...

X amount already made up minds...

X amount won't vote

X amount are sat on fence and its these people we need.
Small amount.

And of course, I use that base shallow logic to assume its the same on remain. Most people already want to remain it's just those fence sitters the campaigns target.

That of course morphed into.... 'all those thickos who only read the sun, they thought 350 was going straight to NHS to save their lives after a life time of bigoted boozing, white van man smoking, cos they read it on a bus'.

Most rationale people know that's not true.

September Glockenspiel is my favourite musical instrument, triangle being a close second. I will pass on the Champagne, I like my wine flat and cheap. Cheese is tempting , and I missed out on getting a cloak by a few years, they used to be standard issue in my profession, so very excited by the cloak. I sadly don't have the face for hats, mores the pity. You surely cannot deny that Ode to Joy is a banging tune ?

It's not my favourite but the glok has ethereal quality to it. Most people can carry off a beret. You didn't mention the the tannoy so enjoy that and the Cape and singing ode to joy.

all those thickos who only read the sun, they thought 350 was going straight to NHS to save their lives after a life time of bigoted boozing, white van man smoking, cos they read it on a bus'.

I actually agree with you on this, despite what some would have us believe, a large chunk of the Leave voting public was not white van man/woman/them, salt of the earth working class types. ( could have a right old argument on the definition of working class/underclass , in fact the whole class concept, but that's for another time ) Being intelligent doesn't mean that you will not be conned though, of course the vulnerable are the easy target, but so is everyone else, if you know which buttons to press. Few are immune.

Tannoy is a no go September I sound like a smurf on a tannoy and I am one of the 5% who cannot even carry off a beret, less Che Guevara, more Benny Hill in female form

I'm pretty sure my aunt voted leave.

She's not a man.
Nor does she have a white van.
She is white, though, if that's relevant.
She doesn't smoke.
[Disclaimer: I don't know whether a white van man smoking is a white man with a van or a man with a white van...nor am I sure what/who is smoking]

Her only argument was that she sold a flat in Spain last year and transferring the money to the UK was really complicated. She thinks that things like that were easier in the "old days" (ie the 60s) and that once the UK is out of the EU with all its barriers preventing money moving between member states, they will be straightforward once again.

She's not thick.
Blinkered might be a more apt way to describe it.

Arf frump, I think Benny Hill might have been the person to forge this whole debacle into something orderly Benny style and make sense of it.

We already have the best possible arrangement.

Mr Cameron also admitted to underestimating the strength of the "latent Leaver gene" among members of the Conservative Party.

He continued: "Something I got wrong was that the latent Leaver gene in the Conservatives was much stronger than I thought.

horse4course I cannot help hearing that in a Kenny Everett voice, sorry

You are of course completely right.

What we need is Revoke, Regroup, Reconsider.

That's the only sane way to go.

We step back from the brink.

We analyse truthfully what caused so many people to vote Leave, given that in 2015, when asked, only 6% put 'the EU' as top of their concerns, and given that the day after the referendum, the most googled term was 'what is the EU?'. These aren't 'Leavers', these are reactionaries. Who will have legitimate concerns. BoJo knows this, looking at his spending promises. To keep the random protestors On Message, while knowing that there won't be any cash to deliver the golden money tree post Brexit.

We, within the EU, tackle the sources of the inequalities that fuel this discontent. We go proportional representation. We reform taxation. We ban bankers bonuses. We tax second home ownership. We take charitable status away from private schools. We understand that while some 'hard working families' disproportionately enjoy the benefits of same, others very much don't. Etc. Meanwhile enjoying the benefits of EU membership.

In due course, we revisit EU membership ( while having, within the EU, examined how a member can leave without all this angst, being first to 'try'). And I bet, 10 years on, again, no one will care about EU membership. Thus we will remain in.

How many people was it that were swayed not only by the scaremongering from remain campaign but the other tricks pulled by remain campaign

Generally acknowledged that the scare tactics of the remain camp backfired badly and won more votes for leave than it gained for remain.

all those thickos who only read the sun, they thought 350 was going straight to NHS to save their lives after a life time of bigoted boozing, white van man smoking, cos they read it on a bus

There are plenty of stupid people in the UK, Leave and esp Gove and Johnson, would have used that bus and slogan if they didn't think it would sway voters!

I don't think anyone in politics under estimates the power of the tabloid press.

Only would have taken 620k voters and the result would have gone the other way, it was a remarkably close run referendum.

So LD are ignore the referendum
Labour are referendum on remain v remain
Tories are deal or no deal
Brexit Party are no deal

Why are MPs so anti-democratic scared of letting people have their say?

I thought Labour were a soft safe Brexit V remain referendum ?

Interesting you say people should have a say fangirl are you veering towards a second referendum ?

I don't agree with LD's position, although in the unlikely event they win a majority in a GE, people will have voted for it.
Fuck knows what Labour's position is. The Tories can no longer play two sides.
I don't want No Deal. I'll accept Leave.
Which seems to be what Labour are saying but their leader is a twat of (almost) the highest order.
Twat in chief is Johnson. Who is going to shaft all the no Dealers with a rebranded WA. Or shaft all of us with WA and, in typical BeLeaver style, try to blame other people. If it were that glorious a solution, why is he blaming the EU for it.

It's interesting how Leavers say 'not all Leavers are like this, that or the other,' but when it suits them they say '17.4 million of us believe this and you have to respect it because there are 17.4 million of us and we outnumber you etc etc.' If you can bear to watch to the end of this video you will see a screaming, screeching, right wing nutjob, claiming he speaks for the 17.4 million people who voted leave. His actual words are 'There are 17.4 million people like me.'

To me, this video is the perfect illustration of how 17.4 million people voted for their own imagined version of Brexit. There's even a guest appearance from a woman having a rant about Muslims which, in her head, leaving the EU will 'solve'. Do they speak for the 'quiet Leavers'? I sincerely hope not. IMO, a major contributing factor to the country being at stalemate now is that there's simply no wish to compromise or agree on the part of most Leavers. 17.4 want 'their' Brexit delivered, but there's no consensus on what that would look like. Some might be satisfied with Norway Plus, others won't be satisfied until everyone foreign 'goes home' (see video). How are we ever going to satisfy all of them?

There are going to be no winners - even strong leave voters are going to be negatively impacted by leaving. So many people are going to struggle and no one is going to benefit, I can’t see any way out of it.

What leave voters haven’t appeared to understand is that the UK is going to be so much worse off both socially and economically.

Just reinstalled my brexit countdown app.

43.14.45

@twofingerstoEverything
I watched the video. I predict Leavers will come on and dismiss it, tiny minority etc (how tiny, enough to take Brexit over the line?)

How are we ever going to satisfy all of them?

I think the only thing we can be reasonably confident about Brexit is that nobody is going to be happy with the result.