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Westministenders: Is Boris going to give us one ?

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BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 09:50

A General Election that is

Well, only when Corbyn lets him, not when BJ wants it.
So far as PM, BJ has lost 4 votes to zero wins - which is a record

BJ has been spraying around promises of billions in spending,
like a tomcat drunk on catnip, spraying the Magic Money Tree

SPADs have been forbidden to take holiday before 31 October
and of course that coup / prorogue to force No Deal and wank off the authoritarian vote

The prorogue also robs him of 5 more weeks time in which he could have forced a GE.
Whoops

BJ / Cum would ideally want a GE right after Brexit
to have achieved their No Deal, maximise their votes from the Faragist
.... all before the No Deal chickens come home to roost

Of course, as PM, BJ - or is Cummings the real PM ? - could change any pre-Brexit date that the naive think they have agreed

The Rebel Alliance have options to stop him:

BJ has sacked 21 MPs, so if the Alliance unite, they outnumber Con+DUP
Another Whoops
However, they have different aims and find it difficult to compromise
Some might prefer No Deal rather than the bogeyman Corbyn, because they don't do compromise

They could use a VoNC to replace BJ by Corbyn,
who would then ask for an extension and call a GE before Brexit
Stopping No Deal that way depends on Corbyn winning the GE - a HUGE gamble

Maybe he can use the slogan
"Brexit is the Tory project to make you forget the other Tory project: Austerity"

while to appeal to some pp, the Tories can use
"Vote to protect the bonuses of rich bankers"

Or if nothing happens by 19 October, MPs can vote for the WA, which would definitely stop No Deal
But that would require the HoC to make a decision - and it has spent several months avoiding that

Tick tock, No Deal is coming

Meanwhile, talks are ongoing for a Tory-Brexit party pact.
Reportedly, the hedge-fund donors won't fund a Tory GE campaign unless there is a pact:

www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/revealed-election-pact-between-johnson-and-farage-edges-closer/

How much money does it take to buy the UK governing party ? 🤔

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Basilpots · 07/09/2019 23:46

Yes. Seriously. He will

He’s sharpening his pencils as we speak Shock

BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 23:48

Tim Shipman@ShippersUnbound

Nigel Farage has offered Boris Johnson a “non-aggression pact” in Sunday Times interview, saying they can win a majority of 100 together

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Driedlimes · 07/09/2019 23:53

@BigChocFrenzy
Desperate that I found the thought of a Gove coup vaguely soothing compared with the BXP takeover... not a good sign!

Outsomnia · 07/09/2019 23:53

What the fk has the UK come to now?

It really is beyond parody.

DadDadDad · 07/09/2019 23:55

I know things have moved on, but I should admit my entire knowledge of Royal Assent is from reading Wikipedia ten minutes before I posted. Blush

Dontlickthetrolley · 07/09/2019 23:56

I think the way things are going PMK may be sidelined by WTF

Tanith · 08/09/2019 00:01

"Yep, just waiting for Gove to make his move..."

You've taken your eyes off Jeremy Hunt...

OhYouBadBadKitten · 08/09/2019 00:02

oh! here you all are!

BigChocFrenzy · 08/09/2019 00:04

Another sign for me was that the last couple of weeks, my German social circle stopped making fun of the UK Brexit antics and suddenly started being very polite and sympathetic to me

(I think derxa misundstood me on that)

It's like being kind when someone has a serious illness, when you normally would be pulling their leg

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Mayborn · 08/09/2019 00:09

Yes you’re right- Jeremy Hunt has gone very quiet. Michael Gove must be biding his time. Surely his job is a poison chalice?

BigChocFrenzy · 08/09/2019 00:13

Hunt is a lightweight;

Gove is not, but even he is lying low, at least until he figures out who is shooting whom

Answer: It's Cummings, shooting everyone

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bombomboobah · 08/09/2019 00:14

Fackin' 'ell
Farage as PM🤯

Symptomless · 08/09/2019 00:14

So now we have two Brexit Parties.

BigChocFrenzy · 08/09/2019 00:15

Katy Balls@katyballs

Lots of talk a domino effect in light of Rudd resignation:

four most closely aligned to her politics - Julian Smith, Robert Buckland, Nicky Morgan, Matt Hancock.

Smith currently viewed as a potential < NI SoS >

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bombomboobah · 08/09/2019 00:16

I think he'd go all 'Uriah heep'

Symptomless · 08/09/2019 00:17

Farage knows that being PM would destroy him. His whole thing is about being "the outsider" "non-politician" man of the people, if he'd actually have to lead the country he'd be exposed as the massive fraud he is.

Basilpots · 08/09/2019 00:20

twitter.com/djnicholl/status/1170429774331883523?s=21

This is the doctor that took on JRM.

He expects to be discredited in one of the ‘news’ papers.

I hope he is wrong.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 08/09/2019 00:21

I'm not sure I can ever see Nicky Morgan going over.

BigChocFrenzy · 08/09/2019 00:21

What will rise from the ashes of this Tory party civil war, is basically the Brexit Party with a few Tory bits bolted on

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Mayborn · 08/09/2019 00:26

Farage couldn’t even get elected as an MP, accountability is his worst nightmare

Alsohuman · 08/09/2019 00:27

The optics are interesting. I’ve now seen two photos of Johnson and Cummings taken with bars in front of them. The suggestion of imprisonment couldn’t be clearer.

Basilpots · 08/09/2019 00:28

Farage knows that being PM would destroy him. His whole thing is about being "the outsider" "non-politician" man of the people, if he'd actually have to lead the country he'd be exposed as the massive fraud he is.

This. He’s made a career out of making promises he’s knows he will never have to deliver on.

Apileofballyhoo · 08/09/2019 00:31

BigChoc LAB is almost the same - I meant much higher than the Cons - but it looks like from that poll that Labour voter intentions remain much the same whether there's an extension before 31st or not, Green voters switch to LD if it's before 31st, and Tory voters switch to BP if there's an extension?

I missed Red's post about the Supreme Court re Johnson and the extension bill.

I keep hoping things. I mean the Tory purgees have more MPs than the Lib Dems do. Can't they form a new party and call it something Conservative-ish?

Symptomless · 08/09/2019 00:35

I'm lucky in the sense that whatever the outcome of all of this is, I can take my family and move elsewhere with relative ease and certainty. But I'm still sad to see UK becoming so polarised, a victim of extremists on all sides. I almost wish EU would cut UK off now and let it self-destruct, and see if there's any rich pickings afterwards. But it would potentially damage Ireland heavily as well so not worth the risk.

BigChocFrenzy · 08/09/2019 00:43

Those of us who are Brit expats are looking on in horror from afar
... but glad we are afar

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