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Westministenders: Is Boris going to give us one ?

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BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 09:50

A General Election that is

Well, only when Corbyn lets him, not when BJ wants it.
So far as PM, BJ has lost 4 votes to zero wins - which is a record

BJ has been spraying around promises of billions in spending,
like a tomcat drunk on catnip, spraying the Magic Money Tree

SPADs have been forbidden to take holiday before 31 October
and of course that coup / prorogue to force No Deal and wank off the authoritarian vote

The prorogue also robs him of 5 more weeks time in which he could have forced a GE.
Whoops

BJ / Cum would ideally want a GE right after Brexit
to have achieved their No Deal, maximise their votes from the Faragist
.... all before the No Deal chickens come home to roost

Of course, as PM, BJ - or is Cummings the real PM ? - could change any pre-Brexit date that the naive think they have agreed

The Rebel Alliance have options to stop him:

BJ has sacked 21 MPs, so if the Alliance unite, they outnumber Con+DUP
Another Whoops
However, they have different aims and find it difficult to compromise
Some might prefer No Deal rather than the bogeyman Corbyn, because they don't do compromise

They could use a VoNC to replace BJ by Corbyn,
who would then ask for an extension and call a GE before Brexit
Stopping No Deal that way depends on Corbyn winning the GE - a HUGE gamble

Maybe he can use the slogan
"Brexit is the Tory project to make you forget the other Tory project: Austerity"

while to appeal to some pp, the Tories can use
"Vote to protect the bonuses of rich bankers"

Or if nothing happens by 19 October, MPs can vote for the WA, which would definitely stop No Deal
But that would require the HoC to make a decision - and it has spent several months avoiding that

Tick tock, No Deal is coming

Meanwhile, talks are ongoing for a Tory-Brexit party pact.
Reportedly, the hedge-fund donors won't fund a Tory GE campaign unless there is a pact:

www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/revealed-election-pact-between-johnson-and-farage-edges-closer/

How much money does it take to buy the UK governing party ? 🤔

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BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 23:29

Rudd definitely resigned, with a stinker of a letter

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RedToothBrush · 07/09/2019 23:30

Spare a thought for the poor LD press officer.

Twice in one week has their big announcement of a defection been completely over shadowed.

You have to say that announcing it in tonight's Sunday press was a bit dumb though.

BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 23:31

ballyhoo The changes because of GE dates are just the Leave distribution between CON & BXP
LAB is almost the same, whatever the date

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BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 23:32

The LDems got confused with " a good day to bury bad news"

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Basilpots · 07/09/2019 23:33

Jeez Francois going to be be getting a job in the cabinet at this rate Shock

BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 23:33

WIll papers be redoing their headline stories, to catch up ?

Or is it too late ?

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Outsomnia · 07/09/2019 23:33

Thanks for the confirmation re Rudd. I am not on social media, don't watch TV (what am I like!), so heard it from a friend but was sceptical.

Confirmed now I think.

Driedlimes · 07/09/2019 23:35

Is anyone else waiting for Gove to encourage BJ to resign, emerge as peacemaker, bring the rebels back, stab BJ in the back again, become leader & pass a tweaked WA?

He's been quiet of late, hasn't engaged in any shenanigans & isn't threatening to die in any ditch.

Didn't they always say that the real prize was to be the leader after the leader after TM...

Peregrina · 07/09/2019 23:35

Rudd has only resigned from the Cabinet and the Tory whip, I don't think she's left the party, has she?

BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 23:36

This would make the pact with BXP more necessary & likely
Also BXP may demand more concessions

One precondition for a pact would be that the Tory manifesto commits to No Deal,
no more waffling about any deal

And any remaining Tory candidates not standing on that, would be opposed by BXP - probably with the approval of Cummings

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RedToothBrush · 07/09/2019 23:37

moderate Tories did not like the direction things were going in, so they couldn't get the foot soldiers out to leaflet and get the voters out

You make it sound like this is new.

They struggled at the last election. Everything was done out of Central office.

There wasn't a huge amount of ground work.

Plus Cummings has switched to a social media model like for leave anyway. There are no spending limits for this either.

NoWordForFluffy · 07/09/2019 23:37

I trust the ComRes poll more than the Opinium one as it asked the question about voting intention if we haven't left. The longer the stalemate goes on, the more disillusioned the Tory leave voters will get.

prettybird · 07/09/2019 23:37

Loved, loved, loved this tweet from Ayesha Grin

Westministenders: Is Boris  going to give us one ?
BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 23:37

peregrina I think she has left the party as well
She will be standing as an Independent Conservative in the GE (whenever it is)

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borntobequiet · 07/09/2019 23:37

Yep, just waiting for Gove to make his move...

ContinuityError · 07/09/2019 23:37

Jeez Francois going to be be getting a job in the cabinet at this rate

Is there a Minister for Weebles That Wobble But Don’t Fall Down?

RedToothBrush · 07/09/2019 23:39

Alex Wickham@alexwickham
A current (non-No10) special adviser texts re Amber Rudd:

“She should have been first out - she’s trashed her rep anyway now, my message would be fuck off to the Lib Dems where you belong.”

Outsomnia · 07/09/2019 23:39

So what majority has Johnson got now? lol.

RedToothBrush · 07/09/2019 23:40

Francois going to be be getting a job in the cabinet at this rate

Yes. Seriously. He will.

Outsomnia · 07/09/2019 23:41

"Yep, just waiting for Gove to make his move..."

Waiting for Godot more like.

prettybird · 07/09/2019 23:41

l admit to having been wrong about Amber Rudd. I thought that Nicky Morgan would go before Amber. Blush ...it actually makes me even more disappointed in Nicky Sad

ContinuityError · 07/09/2019 23:42

Francois going to be be getting a job in the cabinet at this rate

Yes. Seriously. He will

I’m sure Bridgen will be waiting in the wings as well.

BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 23:44

Dried I was wondering about Gove
He'd attempt all that in normal times, I'm sure

This isn't normal though
It's a war zone
Unless he's extraordinary brave / rash / selfless, he'll probably keep his head down and try to stay out of trouble

The Tory party is being destroyed from inside
By an insider who isn't even a member
With the husk merging with BXP

Gove might genuinely see it as his duty to stay on, because he is (mostly) in charge of No Deal prepping & the aftermath
and any likely replacement would be a hopeless incompetent, thrown in at the deep end to handle the country jumping over a cliff

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BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 23:45

I don't think Gove has remotely the power to stand up to all the big guns blasting away the moderates

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RedToothBrush · 07/09/2019 23:45

Aaron Banks @arron_banks
You are soaring in the polls dopey. +13% and Brexit party strong. I have a feeling @Nigel_Farage could be strolling through the front door of number 10, in the next few weeks ..