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Westministenders: Is Boris going to give us one ?

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BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 09:50

A General Election that is

Well, only when Corbyn lets him, not when BJ wants it.
So far as PM, BJ has lost 4 votes to zero wins - which is a record

BJ has been spraying around promises of billions in spending,
like a tomcat drunk on catnip, spraying the Magic Money Tree

SPADs have been forbidden to take holiday before 31 October
and of course that coup / prorogue to force No Deal and wank off the authoritarian vote

The prorogue also robs him of 5 more weeks time in which he could have forced a GE.
Whoops

BJ / Cum would ideally want a GE right after Brexit
to have achieved their No Deal, maximise their votes from the Faragist
.... all before the No Deal chickens come home to roost

Of course, as PM, BJ - or is Cummings the real PM ? - could change any pre-Brexit date that the naive think they have agreed

The Rebel Alliance have options to stop him:

BJ has sacked 21 MPs, so if the Alliance unite, they outnumber Con+DUP
Another Whoops
However, they have different aims and find it difficult to compromise
Some might prefer No Deal rather than the bogeyman Corbyn, because they don't do compromise

They could use a VoNC to replace BJ by Corbyn,
who would then ask for an extension and call a GE before Brexit
Stopping No Deal that way depends on Corbyn winning the GE - a HUGE gamble

Maybe he can use the slogan
"Brexit is the Tory project to make you forget the other Tory project: Austerity"

while to appeal to some pp, the Tories can use
"Vote to protect the bonuses of rich bankers"

Or if nothing happens by 19 October, MPs can vote for the WA, which would definitely stop No Deal
But that would require the HoC to make a decision - and it has spent several months avoiding that

Tick tock, No Deal is coming

Meanwhile, talks are ongoing for a Tory-Brexit party pact.
Reportedly, the hedge-fund donors won't fund a Tory GE campaign unless there is a pact:

www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/revealed-election-pact-between-johnson-and-farage-edges-closer/

How much money does it take to buy the UK governing party ? 🤔

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Hoooo · 07/09/2019 22:08

With the amount of U turns MPs like Rudd et al have done recently they must hsve fucking whiplash....

TheMShip · 07/09/2019 22:08

@Basilpots gold Star!

RedToothBrush · 07/09/2019 22:10

All authoritian regimes start with a purge.

NotaRealLawyer · 07/09/2019 22:10

Apparently Downing St making announcement.

flouncyfanny · 07/09/2019 22:11

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prettybird · 07/09/2019 22:12

The articles about the toxic partnership between BJ and Cummings - "this is the ultimate proof that one is a charlatan and the other a psychopath" (from the NYT article but also described elsewhere) - illustrate why we were right to deliberately double-barrel their names. With one, you got the other: either the polite form, Johnson-Cummings, the still accurate BJ-Cummings or the one that reflects many of our true opinions BlowJob Cum.

Out of deference to some people who didn't like the childish nickname, I now try to remember to refer to the PM as BJ-Cummings. I can't bring myself to show any more respect than that for him - as he hasn't shown that respect to the country and he is in hoc to the devil and deserves to have his name forever associated with the architect of this madness.

Sostenueto · 07/09/2019 22:12

yolofish. Its not the leavers that have caused this it was David Cameron trying to appease his party the Tories! And austerity.

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RedToothBrush · 07/09/2019 22:12

Matt Hancock @MattHancock
So sorry to see Amber resign - a first-rate minister, genuinely wonderful person, and someone I’m proud to call my friend

BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 22:12

Date of GE and whether there is an extension have BIG effect on polls
Comres also have much lower Con lead

LAB lead if GE after A50 extension

This is why the desperate jockeying over the GE - their internal polls will be showing these differences

Britain Elects@britainelects

Westminster voting intention:
"A General Election is held after extending the Brexit deadline beyond the 31st of October 2019":

LAB: 28%

CON: 26%
LDEM: 20%
BREX: 17%
GRN: 4%

"A General Election is held before the 31st of October 2019, and Brexit has not been delivered":

CON: 30%
LAB: 27%
LDEM: 21%
BREX: 14%
GRN: 3%

via @ComRes, 04 - 06 Sep

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ContinuityError · 07/09/2019 22:13

How long do you think its gonna take for the general population to work of the Conservatives ARE the Brexit Party?

How many will care? Conservative Leave voters will DTD with Farage if it gets them what they want.

Although the number of disruptive posters that are popping up here just now (not you Bear Smile), especially when you see the timelines of when they are actively posting and on which topics, makes me think that CCHQ (or the Kremlin) are rattled.

flouncyfanny · 07/09/2019 22:13

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RedToothBrush · 07/09/2019 22:14

MoS politics @mos_politics
Gove orders No Deal troops on street as rebels scupper breakthrough talks.

Westministenders: Is Boris  going to give us one ?
0lga · 07/09/2019 22:15

did anyone fathom out the cryptic message behind Jo Swinsons love of Rodgers and Hammerstein?

I thought it was 16 going on 17 LibDem MPs.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 07/09/2019 22:16

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BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 22:16

"starting to look like a deliberate purge"

Cummings is doing what he always does:
Destroy then build as he wants

1st step: purge the Tories
2nd step: remake as BXP II or merge with it

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BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 22:18

I hope those troops aren't armed:

Angry queues, nervous troops with guns, large fuel stores ....

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Sostenueto · 07/09/2019 22:19

Can I ask again please? Has the Queen approved the oppositions Bill yet?

flouncyfanny · 07/09/2019 22:19

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Hazardtired · 07/09/2019 22:19

But when has Cummings successfully built anything? He's got the destroy part down perfect.

BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 22:19

sos I think she will be asked on Monday

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 07/09/2019 22:20

If someone other than Corbyn was in charge of Labour moderate Tories might waver. However, they will vote against him and McDonell and will work for a Tory victory on that basis. There will then be a huge internal bust up within the party.

BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 22:20

Hazard The "destroy" bit is the bit he likes

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TheCaddyisaBaddie · 07/09/2019 22:22

Is that story about fuel and the troops real or fake?

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 07/09/2019 22:23

Sos
The bill will get RA. It is a formality and there is no way HMQ will let herself be dragged into a political quagmire

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