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Westministenders: Is Boris going to give us one ?

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BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 09:50

A General Election that is

Well, only when Corbyn lets him, not when BJ wants it.
So far as PM, BJ has lost 4 votes to zero wins - which is a record

BJ has been spraying around promises of billions in spending,
like a tomcat drunk on catnip, spraying the Magic Money Tree

SPADs have been forbidden to take holiday before 31 October
and of course that coup / prorogue to force No Deal and wank off the authoritarian vote

The prorogue also robs him of 5 more weeks time in which he could have forced a GE.
Whoops

BJ / Cum would ideally want a GE right after Brexit
to have achieved their No Deal, maximise their votes from the Faragist
.... all before the No Deal chickens come home to roost

Of course, as PM, BJ - or is Cummings the real PM ? - could change any pre-Brexit date that the naive think they have agreed

The Rebel Alliance have options to stop him:

BJ has sacked 21 MPs, so if the Alliance unite, they outnumber Con+DUP
Another Whoops
However, they have different aims and find it difficult to compromise
Some might prefer No Deal rather than the bogeyman Corbyn, because they don't do compromise

They could use a VoNC to replace BJ by Corbyn,
who would then ask for an extension and call a GE before Brexit
Stopping No Deal that way depends on Corbyn winning the GE - a HUGE gamble

Maybe he can use the slogan
"Brexit is the Tory project to make you forget the other Tory project: Austerity"

while to appeal to some pp, the Tories can use
"Vote to protect the bonuses of rich bankers"

Or if nothing happens by 19 October, MPs can vote for the WA, which would definitely stop No Deal
But that would require the HoC to make a decision - and it has spent several months avoiding that

Tick tock, No Deal is coming

Meanwhile, talks are ongoing for a Tory-Brexit party pact.
Reportedly, the hedge-fund donors won't fund a Tory GE campaign unless there is a pact:

www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/revealed-election-pact-between-johnson-and-farage-edges-closer/

How much money does it take to buy the UK governing party ? 🤔

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OublietteBravo · 07/09/2019 21:25

At this rate BJ will have a majority of -50 (or worse) by the end of the weekend.

flouncyfanny · 07/09/2019 21:26

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borntobequiet · 07/09/2019 21:27

Nicky M? Hi lonely! V different from previous Whitehall promenades today with facist thugs blocking both ends and riot police aplenty!

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 07/09/2019 21:27

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OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 07/09/2019 21:27

Was John Mann one of the ones who kept voting with the Government? Or have I confused him for someone else?

Hoooo · 07/09/2019 21:27

Hmmm...who next then?

berlinbabylon · 07/09/2019 21:27

I'm in two minds. On the one hand I understand the people who were furious that the more moderate MPs apparently sold out to serve in Boris Johnson's cabinet.

On the other hand, he needs more moderate MPs in there, otherwise it will be an ERG-only cabinet and/or incompetents.

berlinbabylon · 07/09/2019 21:28

Sorry that was in relation to Amber Rudd.

Hazardtired · 07/09/2019 21:28

Did Rudd write compassionate DWP or am i hallucinating?

BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 21:28

Wow

"she resigned because there is “no evidence” that Boris Johnson is really seeking a deal with the EU"

Well, it has been obvious for some time that BJ isn't serious
but it takes courage to end her career like this, so she presumably has been planning / anguishing for some days

Even in the unlikely event she gets re-elected, she can't become a Cabinet Minister again - and she had many years career ahead of her

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RedToothBrush · 07/09/2019 21:28

Harry Cole@mrharrycole
Hear Rudd did not inform No10 of her intentions and only picked up the phone to the Prime Minister shortly before 9pm. The @ShippersUnbound interview broke online they were still on the blower. Words suicide bomber have been uttered tonight.....

Roflmao!!!

Can you imagine.

Johnson is on the phone to Rudd and one of his aids is passing a mobile hand signalling to look at the message on twitter from Tim Shipman linking to her interview.

Epic!!!

Johnson was particularly happy at winning the support of Rudd in the leadership contest as he thought her crucial in winning...

TokyoSushi · 07/09/2019 21:28

Hancock and potentially the Saj get my vote

Grinchly · 07/09/2019 21:29

John Mann?,
I suppose not surprising but how very interesting

Alsohuman · 07/09/2019 21:29

Maybe when Priti Patel goes he’ll resign.

Grinchly · 07/09/2019 21:32

Saj looked shit, I agree.

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RedToothBrush · 07/09/2019 21:33

t.co/iEQiIyYZlY
Amber Rudd Sunday Times video

RedToothBrush · 07/09/2019 21:35

Carswell thinks rudds resignation will help Johnson in the polls, not hinder.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 07/09/2019 21:35

My view is that the Tory party backlash against withdrawing the whip is building and people don’t want to be tainted by association. AR may be rehabilitated when BJ is disposed of.

RedToothBrush · 07/09/2019 21:35

Tim Shipman @shippersunbound
Nigel Farage has offered Boris Johnson a “non-aggression pact” in Sunday Times interview, saying they can win a majority of 100 together

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RedToothBrush · 07/09/2019 21:37

Sir Roger Gale MP @sirrogergale
Huge respect for Amber Rudd. A good and courteous Minister and a decent and honest person. Cummings and Johnson have sown the wind and are reaping the inevitable whirlwind.

This is the Tory MP for North Thanet...

BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 21:37

"But she could not live with the decision to expel 21 Tory rebels"

So it was loyalty to colleagues and horror at the Tory party being taken over.

Who's next ?
Gove asked several Cabinet colleagues to stay behind for a meeting to discuss Brexit 🤔
but he and they expressed concern about the 21 expulsions
We know he despises BJ - his political "knifing" stopped BJ becoming leader in 2016

Also here were over 100 MPs who signed a letter requesting the MPs be reinstated
Even some Brexiters want some of the lesser offenders back

Cummings is hollowing out the Tory party at the same time as there are pact talks taking place with BXP

Tory party ripe for quiet take over

and most Tory members would be quite happy

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Hazardtired · 07/09/2019 21:38

I haven't read the original article but the tabloids picked up the times interview with Nicolas soames and it was kinda adorable. He's wearing pirate braces because he's a rebel now at 71.