Can remainers tell me why you wouldn't vote for Corbyn in a GE?

[CaptainWarbeck]

Discussing Brexit with centre right friend who is adament despite voting Labour in previous elections she would never vote for Corbyn. When pressed she mentions links to trade unions but can't tell me why that's a bad thing.

I don't love Corbyn but I would vote for him over the absolute mess that is the Tories at the moment. Why for remain/Labour voters right now is he so politically toxic?

Corbyn doesn't know his arse from his elbow and is obsessed with turning the U.K. into another failed Marxist state.

The majority of traditional labour voters voted leave, yet he and his MPs refuse to support Theresa Mays leave deal because their focus was on a GE. Playing the political game.

Corbyn gave the Remainers the impression he was remain, even though he was not and never had been. Playing politics.

He's been screaming for a GE but has now refused it because again he is playing the political game.

He wants to take the country back to the 60/70s and a communist driven government with nationalisation a key element, which failed then and has failed worldwide.

He is ineffectual (see anti semitism) as a party leader, god alone knows how he would be as leader of the country.

Ps. I suspect I won't vote for anyone, as the other parties are just as bad, but you've only asked about Corbyn!

I won't vote for Corbyn or any Labour candidate because they are completely against elective home education.

Their position is based on such solid evidence as "I think/it seems/surely/someone said they heard from their brothers cousins uncles hairdresser/I read in the Mail that" & they are not interested in changing it based on things like actual facts.
Labour party members who are pro EHE & still believe in 'working from the inside' to change have tried but their requests to even have Labour look at it have fallen on deaf ears.

There are other reasons I could add, but that is the main reason I personally will never vote Labour (or any other party who are anti EHE for that matter.)

Not going to be most peoples priority but it is important to me & to the other voting adults who care about my family.

I am terrified of what Labour would do in terms of taxation. My DH earns a decent salary but we live in the South East and managed to get on the property ladder but a huge amount of our salary goes on the mortgage and childcare. My salary as a health worker has been decimated over the last few years and I don't get anything extra for being in the South East, it is the same as it would be in the north where houses are a quarter of the price of those here. We can't just move because my DH has worked his way up in the company he is in and has to stay in London.

Labour would tax my husband to a crazy extent.

On paper we might look rich but we really aren't. We haven't made a huge amount from the property boom, we are those actually paying for it every month.

*salaries not salary

“Labour would tax my husband to a crazy extent”
What do you mean?

“I won't vote for Corbyn or any Labour candidate because they are completely against elective home education.”
Can I ask what you’re basing this on?

Labour policy is to make everyone equal by making sure no one has any money

I think I’d probably vote for him in preference to no deal.

However I do know people who would otherwise vote labour but wouldn’t because of him. I think there would be stronger opposition to no deal if he stood aside.

I think he does have principles but they are too left wing for many. We need a govt that is going to avoid no deal and do small policy tweaks rather than huge expensive re organisations.

I think I’d probably vote for him in preference to no deal

Recent poll shows 52% fear Corbyn more than no deal. Corbyn scored 31%.

Amazing considering all the hype about how bad a no deal departure will be for the UK.

Labour policy is to make everyone equal by making sure no one has any money

You really do write goady tripe don't you?

The evidence of the 9 years is that it is the tories who want the wealthy to get ever richer and the rest of us to stagnate... most people are still worse off than they were in 2008.

Recent poll shows 52% fear Corbyn more than no deal

Many people, including some journalists at the BBC think no-deal equals walking away with what we've got.

most people are still worse off than they were in 2008

Think people will be better off under labour with their huge taxes and plunder of property that people have worked most of their lives to own

Many people, including some journalists at the BBC think no-deal equals walking away with what we've got

Pleased someone has acknowledged that BBC don't know what they are talking about

Think people will be better off under labour with their huge taxes and plunder of property that people have worked most of their lives to own

Can you point me to those policies in their manifesto please?

He's an awful person and cannot lead. I cannot and will not vote for him.

I'll have to vote elsewhere until he has gone.

This is what Labour say in their manifesto about taxation. It doesn't sound terrifying.

Taxation is what underpins our shared prosperity. All of us, including business, benefit from a healthy, educated and skilled population, with access to basic services and secure housing.

We believe in the social obligation to contribute to a fair taxation scheme for the common good. We will take on the social scourge of tax avoidance through our Tax Transparency and Enforcement Programme, and close down tax loopholes.

But we will not ask ordinary households to pay more. A Labour government will guarantee no rises in income tax for those earning below £80,000 a year, and no increases in personal National Insurance Contributions or the rate of VAT.

Under Labour’s plans, 95 per cent of taxpayers will be guaranteed no increase in their income tax contributions, and everyone will be protected from any increase in personal National Insurance contributions and VAT. Only the top 5 per cent of earners will be asked to contribute more in tax to help fund our public services. We renew our pledge not to extend VAT to food, children’s clothes, books and newspapers, and public transport fares.

“Think people will be better off under labour with their huge taxes and plunder of property that people have worked most of their lives to own“
Details, please.

Can you point me to those policies in their manifesto please?

Don't have the labour manifesto to hand, but I think it not far away from the bit where they said they would honour the referendum result

Personally, if i were a younger voter, i 'd be extremely concerned about being made to work until i am 75.

This is a policy announced by Ian Duncan Smith, he is highly regarded in tory circles, so a version of this is likely to happen, so expect the men and womens pension ages to equalise and to then rise to 70 in the next few years.

...and folk worry about Corbyn !!!

I have no issue with the Labour promises set out in the last GE manifesto ( but they don't go far enough) except with regard to leaving the EU. Corbyn is antiEU , as was Tony Benn, and I'm pro EU and always have been. I think that people on high incomes should pay more tax and more council tax and they should subsidise those on low incomes. I thunk that corporations like Amazon ( an example, there are many more) should pay a decent whack of tax. I don't mean small businesses. Broadly I think the NHS and Education and other public services should get higher funding settlements than they do at present ( in real terms, not manipulated figures). I think public sector workers should get higher salaries and to some extend subsidised housing so we can run schools and horizontals in all settings even where housing is expensive. I am a Labour member and have never voted anything but Labour and I'm 61 but I am not sure how to vote this time. To a certain degree it will make no difference as I live in a very high Tory majority constituency but I don't want my vote to contribute to the fallacy that x people support Tory or Labour policies. I expect I will vote Green

Don't have the labour manifesto to hand

So, you made it up.

The manifesto is on their website.

I linked to it earlier.

There is nothing in it about "huge taxes" or "plunder of property".

It's a nice read. It's quite optimistic and uplifting as it's full of ideas about social justice and harmony via investment in training and jobs, a fair taxation system, investment in social and affordable housing and in business and infrastructure.

labour.org.uk/manifesto/

Bertrand russel, are you a Labour party activist?

Do you read anything other than the guardian or morning star?

Not every single paper aside from perhaps morning star writes solely from one particular pov.
There isn't a political test on each article.
I read across the papers usually and I've noticed it's the guardian that is the worst for political biase and omission.
However even then there are some... Some cracking articles in it.
There are fabulous reporters and journalists across the main papers. Try opening up the reading a little.

Social justice for whom?

Frank field wrote a plea to leave the eu for the poor of the UK.