Does anyone here actively WANT no deal?

[justintimberlakesfishwife]

And if so why, and how do you expect it to play out if that's the outcome?

@alsohuman
@whyamidoingthis
@BertrandRussell

Take a look at;

Mumsnet's founder Justine Roberts rejected the criticism, stating "The central aim of Mumsnet is to make parents' (mothers' and fathers') lives easier. There are many and varied opinions on the site and no one Mumsnet party line prevails, save for the view that we respect diverse opinion

@whyamidoingthis

That was part prompted by your post on 25 Aug 2019 to Namenic. However, I will find and arrange to be removed.

“Which other posts do you think should be removed?”

I don’t know. I was talking about posts expressing repellent views in general.

@MysteryTripAgain - Take a look at; Mumsnet's founder Justine Roberts rejected the criticism, stating "The central aim of Mumsnet is to make parents' (mothers' and fathers') lives easier. There are many and varied opinions on the site and no one Mumsnet party line prevails, save for the view that we respect diverse opinion

Are you seriously trying to justify your xenophobic and anti-Irish views as simply being a difference of opinion?

Your response justifying the conflation of Irish and terrorist shows that you really don't get it.

Another example of your xenophobic attitudes is your selection of names in your company example. Deleting them won't make you any less xenophobic.

I am nearly 50. Voted in every local and national election since I have been entitled. Never quibbled any result despite being regularly on the losing side.

The Referendum requires a different tack because:-
a) The Leave campaign broke the law;
b) false and misleading promises were made to voters;
c) the ballot asked a simplistic question of a complex problem; and
d) the outcome will have a long term - possibly irreversible- impact.

All of those things are factual (yes even d - I didn't describe the severity of the impact).

I would consider myself a pretty shit citizen if I didn't challenge those things to be honest.

(And i honestly can't follow MysteryTrip's posts - aside from the equal opportunity xenophobia-despite my best attempts.)

I don’t think any posts should be deleted because the poster decides they’ve gone too far @MysteryTripAgain. That post should have remained so you were held to account for it.

@Notonthestairs

a) So why did government not declare the results void?

b) What happened to the 800,000 jobs that would be lost just by voting to leave before UK even left the EU

c) Ballot had to be equally balanced between leave and remain

d) Article 49 enables UK to apply to rejoin

Had remain won could leave campaign not argue that the guaranteed disaster which never happened was also a lie?

Another bad loser.

“Had remain won could leave campaign not argue that the guaranteed disaster which never happened was also a lie?”

You do know we haven’t left yet?

Had remain won could leave campaign not argue that the guaranteed disaster which never happened was also a lie?

How would that have worked?

Of course the car crash of leaving wouldn’t happen if we’d voted remain!

The facts stand.

But my opinions of the other issues you raise:-
a) government in the pocket of investors looking for deregulation and making money (see Crispin Odey and US investors and markets);
b) manufacturing is down, unemployment levels include zero hours contracts which inflate figures;
c) no, reducing a vital decision down to in out does not create balance (difficulty not rolling my eyes at that one) and was essentially pulling a fast one on voters;
d) impact will have already been felt.

The range of outcomes described by Remain campaign can be backed up by Governments own analyses (see Yellowhammer).

Really ok with being called a bad loser.

So how do think an attempt to rejoin would go @MysteryTripAgain? The EU would laugh in our face before allowing us back, tail between legs, on far inferior terms to those we have now.

Of course the car crash of leaving wouldn’t happen if we’d voted remain

Was referring to the disaster that remain said would happen before UK left EU

Once again for emphasis: We haven’t left yet.

no, reducing a vital decision down to in out does not create balance (difficulty not rolling my eyes at that one) and was essentially pulling a fast one on voters

How else would you ensure equal balance between leave and remain? What ballot paper would you have presented?

Another remain supporter who won't accept they lost the referendum

We know we were in the (slight) minority @Mysterytripagain. That doesn’t stop us critiquing the stupid simplistic approach the referendum was based on.

“Another remain supporter who won't accept they lost the referendum”

I have NO IDEA what people mean by this!

Once again for emphasis: We haven’t left yet

But what happened to the 800,000 jobs that were going to be lost just by voting to leave even before UK left EU?

“Was referring to the disaster that remain said would happen before UK left EU“

You think we’re not in the middle of a disaster at the moment?????

Can we have a link for the predicted 800,000 job loss, please?

The EU would laugh in our face before allowing us back, tail between legs, on far inferior terms to those we have now

Possible that EU would reject the application. No obligation for the EU to accept new members.

You think we’re not in the middle of a disaster at the moment

Political crisis at moment, but not an economic crisis

Can we have a link for the predicted 800,000 job loss, please

Said by George on 23 May 2016

820,000 jobs will be lost

GDP growth 6% lower

All parts of project fear. Look it up on BBC website

@Notonthestairs - Really ok with being called a bad loser.

Interestingly, @MysteryTripAgain seems to believe the people of NI are bad winners. Apparently, despite a very large majority voting to accept the GFA, which resulted in the UK signing an international peace treaty, they shouldn't expect the UK to honour their commitments under that treaty as a larger number of people in the UK as a whole voted leave in 2016. Schoolboy bully tactics.

they shouldn't expect the UK to honour their commitments

Two borders likely to occur in the event of a no deal. A vague WTO border in NI and an EU border in ROI like those in Eastern European countries.