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Westminstenders: The House Is On Fire

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RedToothBrush · 03/09/2019 13:01

Have we walked into a trap or has the trap shut on the fingers of Johnson?

To early to tell but we have entered an All or Nothing Game.

Johnson seems to have been advised his only way out is a GE - the polls look decent to him. Yet the FTPA means he can not call one without parliaments consent.

He has tried to spook Tory MPs to his will by threatening de-selection. Yet this seemed to have backfired in combination with proroguing and fired up rebels and moderates.

This might still be deliberate though to remove the road block of an internal civil war in the Tory Party. In cleansing moderates though they become the Brexit Party...

... And Spreadsheet Phil has vowed to fight to the last for his party from entryists and non members like Cummings. After first getting support of his local association.

Tonight sees a vote at around 9pm, which is touted as a pseudo no confidence vote.

If this block no deal then tomorrow we face a big day. It looks like there are numbers to do this.

Rebels are looking to seize control of parliamentary time (which might affect prorogation timetable). This is a beefed up version of the previous attempt to do this.

This is around 3pm - 7pm tomorrow.

No 10 has a spad meeting at 7pm, which presumably is about fallout from that vote - and if it goes against government will probably be about trying to force an election.

If he can.

Labour now have leverage though. They can make demands and insist they are in law before agreeing to a GE on Johnson's terms.

Which perhaps makes a GE less likely than the BBC seem to think.

There is talk of trying to force another extension to 31st Jan. I'm not entirely sure how this helps, without a legitimate goal of a deal that goes with it. All it does is push things even more polarised.

And that's my fear. The issue of Brexit isn't going away. No deal, a deal and remaining all leave significant numbers highly dissatisfied. Its hard to see a way out of this without unrest because its been pushed so hard in a polarising way.

If Johnson fails to no deal or to deal on his terms where does this push Farage sympathisers?

We shall see what happens...

... Will the House's independence survive until Nov 5th?

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LouiseCollins28 · 03/09/2019 19:23

Generally speaking I thought Corbyn was surprisingly good too. Thought he made a good contribution.

OublietteBravo · 03/09/2019 19:23

DM also reporting that BJ was advised that it’s impossible to remove the backstop from the WA.

DarkAtEndOfUK · 03/09/2019 19:23

PMK. Tee hee hee.

Hazardtired · 03/09/2019 19:26

Dw no hope here...

AutumnCrow · 03/09/2019 19:26

I feel quite moved to be watching Sovereign Parliament wresting back control from Cummings, Johnson and Rees-Mogg.

Rees-Mogg is quite thick, isn't he?

SansaSnark · 03/09/2019 19:27

JRM looks like a clown right now. Everyone else is taking things seriously and it shows.

Belindabelle · 03/09/2019 19:28

Is JRM off his head. Trying to outwit the Speaker.

LouiseCollins28 · 03/09/2019 19:28

JRM laying it on too thick I admit but he skewered Speaker Bercow beautifully there!

Belindabelle · 03/09/2019 19:29

What a clown he is.

phpolly · 03/09/2019 19:29

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AutumnCrow · 03/09/2019 19:31

Rees-Mogg is fucking bonkers. I think only unhinged Peter Bone is agreeing with him.

prettybird · 03/09/2019 19:32

I think I managed to count 16 rising in the Naughty Corner when Bercow asked for people to support Letwin's motion Grin. I didn't rewind to check though.

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 03/09/2019 19:32

Bloody love Bercow. He takes no crap. Not even from JRM

CrunchyCarrot · 03/09/2019 19:33

Dust-Spaffer seems to be enjoying himself, does he think he's in a play or something?

TheElementsSong · 03/09/2019 19:35

Dust-Spaffer seems to be enjoying himself, does he think he's in a play or something?

Maybe he's spaffing dust as he speaks [vomface]

LonelyTiredandLow · 03/09/2019 19:36

JRM talking about stunning arrogance!!!

DarkAtEndOfUK · 03/09/2019 19:37

Power grabs?!?

AuldAlliance · 03/09/2019 19:38

JRM is just godawful.

OublietteBravo · 03/09/2019 19:38

A selection of today’s DM headlines

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Camomila · 03/09/2019 19:39

He's very good at not answering stuff...'I was watching the cricket!'

Also, we are some MPs 'learned'? Are they solicitors?

Soothing cat pics below. (Plan is to let them wean and then give them to people to be properly looked at)

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Butterymuffin · 03/09/2019 19:39

J R M drips with contempt whenever he speaks to anyone he disagrees with. Arguably it's exactly that manner that, by incensing Philip Lee in his treatment of the neurologist who asked about mortality and no deal, has lost Johnson his majority. What an asset he is!

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RedToothBrush · 03/09/2019 19:40

Jessica elgot@jessicaelgot
By my count, 18 publicly declared rebels now. At least five more are close to coming over.

A note of caution though that funny things do happen in the moments before the division bell rings

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boatyardblues · 03/09/2019 19:41

Cute kittens Camomila. Nice distraction from JRM.

LouiseCollins28 · 03/09/2019 19:41

“Power grab” is dangerous territory for JRM considering he’s now a member of the government

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