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Exactly time4chocolate come over for a swift half and some sanity.

Boris steps aside if he doesn't get his 2/3 majority and invites JC to try to form a Government. (Boris is a minority so in theory his opponents are the best placed to replace him). Either a) Corbyn can't and no-one asks for the extension and he causes accidental No Deal or b) more likely someone blinks long enough to cobble together a GNU and get an extension followed by a GE where Boris leads the Conservatives on a Repeal the extension and Leave ASAP platform.

This is the ultimate running down the clock play which ironically Parliament will have not only facilitated but actually insisted on.

Parker an extension does not bin No Deal it just kicks the can some more like the last one.

Boris steps aside

Do you really think he would do that?

Why would Boris not step aside? He effectively already has by sacking his majority.

Johnson is having an absolute nightmare. Behind the bumbling Boris brand there lies very, very little - just a narcissistic man of very limited political ability (but what a great brand!) and the public are catching onto that quickly. Just a shame they didn’t realize in sufficient numbers to call him on his bullshit at the time of the EU referendum. In the few days he has been at work he has: lost his parliamentary majority, lost two massive votes, lost his brother, sacked some very respected politicians, today been humiliated by members of the public, and made lots weird rambling speeches and been useless in the Commons. He’s looking the most incompetent leader I’ve seen in my lifetime.

Evening howabout

Id have to go for ‘option A’ just for the irony factor alone!

This is the ultimate running down the clock play which ironically Parliament will have not only facilitated but actually insisted on

So this ^^

Just to be doubly clear Boris resigns as PM but NOT as Leader of the Tories. No-one has a majority other than to pass the extension and so a GE has to follow. If the LibDems / anti Corbyn Labour get their way they get Corbyn half way to resigning before they call the GE - Jo Swinson confirmed today she will not support GNU under Corbyn - the Tory rebels, Tiggers and Independents will help her to enforce this condition. The ultimate aim for them is not Remain it is getting rid of Corbyn. If the SNP play hard ball they extract 2nd Ref pledge from Labour before signing up to GNU. The ultimate goal for them is not Remain it is Indy.

No - this has been the Tory Party Show from start to finish
You can argue about who did what in the history books. Right now parliament is in Chaos and Corbyn is blocking the only solution. People already hate him, as time goes by he will get more and more blame for being the problem and scared of the solution.

howabout has it right Corbyn has refused to support the LibDems GNU and the LibDems have refused to support a Corbyn GNU.

If all you have is Corbyn supporting Boris as PM for a couple of months then a no deal is only a few months away.

Why would Boris not step aside?

Well given that No 10 has already denied it, and in our current climate war is peace, freedom is slavery and
ignorance is strength, maybe “Johnson won’t resign” is really “Johnson will resign”.

Corbyn is blocking the only solution

If the ERG had voted through the WA then the UK would be out of the EU by now.

Still not owning your shit.

OMG imagine if Boris resigns as PM and we left on no deal automatically Corbyn actually managed to get a GNU by promising to help the SNP to leave. He then goes to the EU, surrenders, calls a GE and Boris support spikes.

The irony of Corbyns plan causing a Boris landslide and us escaping the EU. roflmao

If the ERG had voted through the WA then the UK would be out of the EU by now
"If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, wouldn't it be a Merry Christmas?"
Corbyn is causing the current problem, own your shit.

Walkingdeadfangirl
Probably time to stop the fantasies, Johnson hasn’t a clue what he’s doing, he’s doing the slalom flat on his ass in front of the country and our EU neighbours (as he likes to refer to them whenever he’s not talking about “surrender”). Johnson is a shambles. Brexit is a shambles. Well done.

Corbyn is doing nothing wrong. He is using the process to block a no deal (with support from other parties) in the same way as Johnson is using the process (prorogue) to force through a no deal. Corbyn is currently holding the better cards.

Corbyn is busy trying to stop that prat Johnson from causing economic harakiri. And he’s the problem?

Corbyn is causing the current problem, own your shit

Corbyn is leader of the Opposition, not the Prime Minister.

Johnson is in charge of the Executive and is proroguing the Legislature.

I think you’ll find that it’s Johnson and his puppet master causing the current impass.

Are you paving the way for shifting the blame by any chance Walkingdeadfangirl?

The Johnson inspired attempt to deflect the blame is rather pathetic.
As for owning my shit, I despise Corbyn but , sadly, he is currently Leader of the Opposition. He certainly isn't any good at taking a lead on this shit . He's like an annoying older brother from the old days (I'm old) who, by virtue of the fact he is the oldest male, is considered Head of the Family. When the real players are pretty much everybody else.
If Cooper or Benn or Starmer were leader, Johnson would be off wanking in a darkened room.

Corbyn is blocking the only solution. People already hate him, as time goes by he will get more and more blame for being the problem and scared of the solution.

What solution? Threatening the EU with no deal? They know the U.K. isn’t prepared for No Deal.

If Johnson had some master plan up his sleeve don’t you think he would have shared it with his brother?

So it is true, remain is pissing it's pants at the thought the country would support Boris and yell get us out of here by voting him in with a majority to sort this mess out.
Parliament care nothing for what the people want and we are in a nanny state where they know better and our votes mean nothing..

The delay is 2 weeks! considering the last 3.5 years, it 's nothing at all but it does seem that leavers are desperate to blame anyone but themselves.

The huge problem for the Tories is many con MPs will not stand on a no-deal manifesto and they have to find, what, 25 new candidates, far more if they went into a pact with BXP.

Labour also have problems with a few MPs not wanting either JC or a referendum based manifesto.

I think the LD's will do very well.

@mummmy2017 - yes I’m panicking at the thought of leaving with a no deal because I understand the disaster this would be to the UK. Why are you wishing this on us?

Speaking of the “chaos” we avoided with Ed Miliband, there’s a video from a couple of years ago (when he was already no longer leader) of him chatting to a homeless man on the street late at night outside a tube station and giving him a tenner. It always astonishes me how the British public turn their noses up at decent men like Ed Miliband (who’s manifesto was pretty centre ground let’s not forget) and vote in men like Cameron and Johnson, who as students delighted in funny antics such as burning 50 quid notes in front of the homeless. We get what we deserve.

Because for forty years I have wanted to leave.
I got a vote I used it.

The last 40 years of economic prosperity (global crash aside) and peace in Europe have been pretty have been awful.