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Brexit was never about this that or the other to most people who voted to leave.
It was about the EU becoming something we never asked or voted for.
We got asked stay or go.
More people who wanted to go got out of their house and voted to go.
Stay now have all these wonderful reason why everyone else was wrong, but it's too late, and even the law says in every court case that what was done was legal.
Own your mistake to yourself, you did too little, and just thought it would go your way with no effort.
Leavers do know change is ahead, we want it, no one knows just what will happen, but the gains of losing the EU will be worth it.

@mummmy2017 it's no longer Leave vs Stay. You are living in the past if you think it is. It's about avoiding the catastrophe of No Deal which can be done with an orderly Brexit. I would accept an orderly Brexit, you wouldn't.

And now we have Leavers crying because the (empty) promises they made, when they had no authority to do so, are coming back to bite them. The 'blaming others' has started before we've even left. This is literally what Hannan voted for. I feel a sneer coming on...

Leavers do know change is ahead, we want it, no one knows just what will happen, but the gains of losing the EU will be worth it.
We want change! When do we want it? Now! What sort of change? We don't know! But it will be worth it, because we want change!
Vacuous rubbish.

I thought you were reading to find out why we voted to leave an insite into why.
I don't want to be tied to the EU at all.
Agreements can be changed, if both sides are willing, if both sides can see that what was written no longer covers things now one side is leaving a trade agreement.
Why should we have to use the WA which is not a good deal for the UK just so the is a deal.

@mummmy2017 - why should the EU change the WA - it’s suits them . They aren’t leaving.

And so since it is not fit for purpose, we leave with no deal. Simple.

Spell out all the things you don't like about WA and why No Deal is better.

No Deal is a business opportunity for the EU, we've hoards of companies here, attracted by govt subsidy, skilled workforce BUT open access to the EU, a market of around 400m.

Once that bit goes, so will these companies and what better way to reduce eurozone unemployment by moving Airbus etc to Toulouse etc?

Then there are the 'city companies, some EU countries are flat out to lure this profitable work to mainland europe.

Change can be good of course, but change should be planned.

Seeing as I get criticised for tagging people with my direct responses to them

You know tagging is one of my pet hates 😂

I’m not sure what the actual etiquette is but I just don’t think it’s necessary if the person you are tagging is active on the thread - just putting their name in bold is sufficient

The only time I can see it’s appropriate is if a poster has been away from a thread for a long time and you think it’s important they see your post

No deal means we start trade deal as equal partners wanting to trade.
WA is EU bias towards all their wants and needs before ours, plus the price tag, which is not fixed.

I thought you were reading to find out why we voted to leave an insite into why

That’s not the case for me anymore certainly. I know Leavers won’t come up with anything that I believe makes it worthwhile but they won so we have to get on with it.

I am intrigued as to why you won’t tell us what you’d think if it wasn’t no deal though mummmy.

Boris has said countless times he’d prefer a deal to no deal so even if you’re convinced it will be no Deal, you must have considered the option that it’s actually a WA deal?

I thought you were reading to find out why we voted to leave an insite into why.
Well, where is it? Where's the 'insight'?

WA is EU bias towards all their wants and needs before ours, plus the price tag, which is not fixed.
Drivel.

The EU are obviously going to only agree to an agreement which is favourable to them. They have the upper hand as they are a unit of 27 countries as oppose to the UK alone who have decided to leave.

No deal means we start trade deal as equal partners wanting to trade.
Equal partners with whom?
With what as leverage?

Equal partners with whom?
Fiji (main exports: sugar, garments, gold, timber, fish, molasses, mineral water and coconut oil)
Papua New Guineau (main exports: gold, copper, palm oil and coffee).
So, we'll be fine for gold and fuck the air miles.

news.sky.com/story/toyota-to-put-brake-on-car-production-at-uk-factory-day-after-brexit-11797838

Impact on supply chain already being affected. I would imagine other car manufacturers will have to do the same to avoid halting production within the first week after Brexit.

Equal partners 😂😂😂😂😂😂. When we have deliberately tanked our economy with No Deal and are desperate. No wonder Trump is egging us on.
With an orderly Brexit, we are more likely to be "equal partners".

I've got no answers. And I've seen many of the old leave-brigade just vanish from these threads. Some of whom were very happy to debate -politely- but were treated with such awful disdain that they couldn't stand it and left.
@mummmy2017 is a rare beast these days, a leaver who debates. So why not treat her with respect or she'll name change and piss off too.

Why will leaving without a deal be ‘catastrophic’?

I voted to leave because I just ‘feel’ it’s the best thing. No facts to back up my vote it’s just I feel it’s the right decision.
This is what remainers find so frustrating and hard to cope with. They demand answers based on 58 different studies ( all of which they’d reject anyway ) but I haven’t got these answers.
I just feel it’s the best way forward.

But she doesn't debate. She trots out meaningless sound bites and shows that, for her, feelings override, say, peace in NI.

Here's one for the Happy Few.
http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/3679058-To-let-you-know-that-panic-buying-starts-next-week

@mummmy2017 (13:39)

Yes, as a Remainer I am willing to 'own my mistake'- which was to assume, wrongly, that people would do a bit of homework before deciding how to vote; that they'd understand that austerity was a Tory Party ploy; that their complete disengagement with the political process -or their mindless self-destructive Tory vote!- is what continues to blight their communities; that the EU funds a lot of good causes throughout Britain; that just because they imposed their own opinion about 'what Brexit will look like' in voting Leave, that the government was going to satisfy those 17.4m reasons; that every indicator points to everyone's lives becoming harder, the poor in particular; that the days of Rule Britannia are gone; that crumbling infrastructure and an ever increasing inequality gulf is the fault of our national governments, not the EU; that the price we pay to be a member of this club buys us unalloyed exposure to 740 million consumers; that there was no clamour whatsoever to leave the EU from The People- that it was an Old Etonian spat that got out of hand; that the red top barons, the ones that fooled you, and the hedge fund managers have got very good reasons to want to escape from the scrutiny of the EU; that they'd understand they were voting about remaining inside one of the most powerful, richest, influential trading blocks, on the most beneficial terms- the world has ever known, not 'getting a chance to stick it to the Man'..

But I was wrong.

The most googled term on June 24th 2016 was 'What is the EU?'.....

@mummmy2017my "Leavers do know change is ahead, we want it, no one knows just what will happen, but the gains of losing the EU will be worth it.

That has got to be one of the most stupid statements I've read on here today.

"Change is ahead and we want it". Well, poverty and dying for want of medicines make 'a change', don't they? A 50 year recession will 'make a change', won't it?

"No one knows what will happen"- well, you apparently do as it's going to presumably be far better than staying in, otherwise why do it?

We aren't 'losing the EU', they're 'losing' us. And we're the losers.

I actually cannot understand why people like you have this deep, visceral hatred for the EU. I don't suppose it crossed your mind from one month til the next before June 2016, did it?

Now you seem happy to bring on any amount of suffering and privation to any number of people to be rid of it.

And you wonder why our feelings towards you err towards contempt.