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Do you judge people on how they voted?

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Rock4please · 01/08/2019 07:55

Just that really. I used to have an open mind on meeting somebody new but, if I discover that they voted leave, I am not interested in furthering the relationship. Similarly, with Americans, I don’t want to associate with anyone who supports Trump.

Am I being unfair and narrow minded or do you judge new people in a similar way?

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Helmetbymidnight · 01/08/2019 12:03

yeah, not so much people who voted leave by accident, well, i think they arent that bright, but hey, thats life, but definitely, brexiteers. i really fucking loathe them.
i dont think they've got any idea how much (some of us) despise them.

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Crispmonster123 · 01/08/2019 12:07

I judge people who would vote for Corbyn.

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Helmetbymidnight · 01/08/2019 12:07

part of the (admittedly) many reasons iloathe them is the whole 'i voted for you to lose your job, to fuck the economy and to jeopardise your meds, but why cant we be friends?' schtick.

urghhh. they really are dislikeable. imho Grin

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Helmetbymidnight · 01/08/2019 12:10

i also really dislike the twats who think everything is about corbyn.

They seem to think only corbyn fans are remainers. its a level of stupidity i dont need in my friends.

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Rock4please · 01/08/2019 12:12

I attended a wedding reception yesterday and was on a table with some charming Germans, who are the parents of the groom's daughter in law (obviously also German but married to an Englishman and living in England).

The ghastly woman opposite interrupted our private conversation to offer her unsought opinion about how there had to be a no deal, in order to stop immigration. I was so embarrassed. I mean who does that, as an invited guest? Only someone with no manners, no tact or discretion, and the skin of Rhino. Your typical Brexiteer, in fact - you only have to look at their role models. You know - The ones who like to flash their backsides at the European Parliament whilst taking all the pay and perks.

The Germans were very gracious, just shrugged it off, and said how much they loved England. It took the gloss of the day for me, to be honest.

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bellinisurge · 01/08/2019 12:20

Stupid No Dealer twats are pleasingly loud mouthed so you know who they are.

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MissGiddyPants · 01/08/2019 12:32

But they walk among you.

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AlexaShutUp · 01/08/2019 13:05

They seem to think only corbyn fans are remainers. its a level of stupidity i dont need in my friends.

Well, quite. It's not exactly as if Corbyn is the poster boy for Remain!

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IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 01/08/2019 13:05

There's no such thing as a 'typical brexiteer' since that would imply all 52% of leave voters have exactly the same personalities and priorities. Such a sweeping, reductive pov.

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Nonnymum · 01/08/2019 13:08

Unfortunately, yes I do judge them, normally I am open and give people the benefit of the doubt, but I can't help it.
David Cameron did the country a great disservice when he called the referendum, he opened a can of worms that won't be closed for a long time. I have never known the country so divided and I lived through the Thatcher years

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Helmetbymidnight · 01/08/2019 13:09

yeah, but i dont have to like 'em.

i live in brexit heartlands so i know very well their incoherent incomprehensible take on things:

'we want our sovreignty back!'
'how do you mean?'
'urg, gah, We Won! get over it!'

all i can hope is that when they get the no deal they are so stupidly desperate for, its their families who suffer most, not mine.

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OnlyFoolsnMothers · 01/08/2019 13:12

When it comes to brexit, I only judge people who are so forcefully one way or another. Blinkered people who cant see both sides of the argument.

Oh and anyone who likes Corbyn- i have no time for those!

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MustardScreams · 01/08/2019 13:18

@Crispmonster123 well that’s only people in his constituency, so that’s not too many. I judge people who don’t understand how voting works.

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Helmetbymidnight · 01/08/2019 13:20

if i heard coherent arguments in favour of brexit that outweighed all the negatives then i might have some respect for them.

unfortunately, most of them - ime- have no fecking idea about anything.

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MustardScreams · 01/08/2019 13:21

@OnlyFoolsnMothers I am fully of open mind! The problem is in 3 years I have not heard or seen one single, tangible positive or heard an argument to even sway my mind slightly. Ask a leaver why Brexit is a positive and you’ll be hit with the same replies trotted out for 3 years. I.e nothing much of any factual nature as to what benefits this is going to bring the average person in their actual lifetime, not in 100 years time.

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BiggerBoat1 · 01/08/2019 13:24

Yes I would certainly judge someone who voted leave. I'm not sure I'd go as far as cutting them out of my life, but I'd definitely think less of them.

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IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 01/08/2019 13:28

Brexit supporters have tried to explain why we voted as we did and just get called thick and racist. So now we just don't bother. Remain voters have no idea either how staying in the EU would have affected the country in the long term either - everyone just made what they considered to be the best choice.

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VolcanionSteamArtillery · 01/08/2019 13:28

Stupid No Dealer twats are pleasingly loud mouthed so you know who they are.

Hahahaha!!!

I had a conversation with one of remainer friends, i realised mid conversation she was absolutely convinced i had voted the same way as her. I didn't correct her, i like the woman.

I dont judge. Im friends with all political persuasions. I dont generally care. I dont tend to talk politics with either end of the political spectrum because they are absolutely certain they are right regardless and politics arent worth half as much as people.

Want to defriend me because i voted differently from you? Thats fine. The one thing i do dislike is judgemental self righteous people... they can gallop off on their high horse

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Bumper1969 · 01/08/2019 13:28

No because living in an echo chamber and assuming anyone who thinks differently to you adds to extreme polarized ideas that fuels extreme parties on both sides. I think not being friends with people who voted in another way is immature.

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OnlyFoolsnMothers · 01/08/2019 13:28

MustardScreams I think Brexit was either a vote to put two fingers up to the establishment which you are correct is entirely feelings based, or a vote against the direction the the EU union is heading.
I am very much against PESCO and think it will cause problems with NATO, I am unhappy about some of the countries that have recently joined/ those that will soon join and consequently the freedom of movement. An open door immigration policy imo is never a good thing and the squeeze the high levels of immigration put on resources is real. Are services underfunded, yes- but supply and demand tells us that net migration is too high. In addition I am not happy to align so closely with countries that have such right wing governments!

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MustardScreams · 01/08/2019 13:29

I haven’t called anyone racist or thick. I still would like to know the positives of this clusterfuck though.

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Fragalino · 01/08/2019 13:29

I do unfortunately judge anyone who seems entrenched on any subject and whose views I find are extreme.

Usually open minds, the ability to see and understand all sides on an argument, free, easy liberal people are the type I gravitate too.
I shy away from extreme intense people who can't seem to understand other view points.

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Fragalino · 01/08/2019 13:31

Bumper I agree and we see on here people whipping themselves into a frenzy following cult leader.

In rl we have friends and family of all persuasions and I wouldn't want it any other way.

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MustardScreams · 01/08/2019 13:34

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

Thank you! You are the first person who has actually given any reasoning behind your vote.

I don’t agree with your stance on migration, and we have a rather hard-right government ourselves currently, but I understand a little more as to why you voted leave. I’m just not sure your reasons are worth the awfulness that has happened to this country in 3 years. The rise of the hard-right, the surge in racism. I can’t get on board with that because a politician was scared of losing seats to UKIP.

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OnlyFoolsnMothers · 01/08/2019 13:40

MustardScreams my pleasure. I do see the sh*t show we are in and by no means have a backstop answer. I can actually see both sides of this issue.

I will just say, whilst we have a right of centre government it is not comparable to the governments of the Eastern Block- their attitude towards migrants and anyone of colour is abhorrent
www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/hungary-s-leader-urges-europe-to-reject-liberal-values-and-immigration-1.3827401

It worries me particularly as I am raising a mixed raced daughter and am Jewish myself!

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