Why do people here have a stash for Brexit?

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I can see the point if it's medicines or medical supplies, but I've seen a few threads here where people are stashing tuna, toilet rolls and sweets!?

Are you all fucking mad?

I'm a total remainder but come on, I know it'll be shit but you'll still find asda and tesco will be open

Because I don’t trust the Tories to make sure I can feed my child. So I’m going to do my best to make sure I can do it myself.

Also, we live rurally and have been snowed in before, so having a bit of a buffer in makes sense, even without the clowns we have in Parliament.

For those being negative where do you think the majority of your food comes from? After a no deal Brexit there will be supply problems and higher prices. A 31 October leaving date is also the worst time as the UK is heavily reliant on imports of fruit and vegetables but warehouses will already be full with Christmas stock.

Perhaps we need a system, you carry a ‘leave’ or ‘remain’ card depending on how you voted. If leaving causes economic problems and shortages then remainers get to be first in the queue in order to survive. If we are rich beyond our wildest dreams as a result of Brexit then the leavers get more in return.

I bet the ‘remain’ voters would be higher that 49% in that case.

Even The Telegraph is sounding distinctly unconvinced about Johnson's leadership on Brexit. (Various articles.)

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Because my husband has been working with DEFRA on food supplies post Brexit if we have no deal. He is the most level headed, non-armageddon catastrophising type going. If even he has asked me to stash loo roll, frozen veg and a back up supply of various tinned goods, then we are up shit creek.

So, I have a simple stockpile. And buying more now will not create supply issues. It is those who leave it until the supply is short and then panic buy that cause problems. Think about what happens when it snows - those with stores are fine. Those who buy day to day can't get what they need.

And I have a whole load of for those who keep popping up saying we are all deluded. Luckily, as @Janista is in Australia she is never likely to have to use my stash. I have a pretty low opinion of leavers in general, but I reserve my utter disdain for those who have either retained dual citizenship (I'm all right Jack, screw the rest of you) or preach the benefit of leaving when it nothing fucking to do with them.

oh yeah everyone will be a remainer when they're queuing up for basics.
or 'there'll be like 'oh i didnt know no deal meant this' - utter morons.

My OH voted Leave but claims he was the victim of lies. I'm still pretty

He's prepping, though.

Anyway, to answer the OP, and the True BeLeavers who are no doubt gnashing at the bit in their eagerness to pledge not to prep...

I think it's something like this...

If you buy extra stuff because it's on special offer and you're a thrifty person who is generally careful with money, no problem.

If you buy extra stuff because there might be bad weather coming and you've been snowed in before, no problem.

If you buy extra stuff because you're an old-fashioned organised sort who likes a well-stocked pantry and like menu-planning and batch-cooking, no problem.

If you buy extra stuff because you're concerned about supply chain disruption in the wake of a No Deal crash-out Brexit, YOUR NEGATIVE THINKING WILL MAKE A BREXIT FAIRY DIE!!!!

I suspect no issue with anything made in uk

But, as I posted up thread, things made in the UK, like Mars Bars, are made using ingredients from outside the UK which are delivered ‘just in time’.

You only have to look at how the snow last winter affected food supplies to see that supermarket shelves can quickly run empty when supply chains are disrupted. I lived in a large city, but supplies coming in were disrupted and I had to walk around several shops to be able to do a "proper" food shop that weekend. In October, I'll be living in a rural town with less food shopping options options- I'll definitely be building up a buffer for no deal if that still looks likely when I move in.

If we no-deal, there will be disruption to transport across the channel, which is how we get a lot of food into the UK. We only produce about 50% of our own food, and then another 30% comes from Europe. A lot of what comes from RotW also comes through European ports.

I remember reading in February that only 17% of the usual traffic would get through at ports each day in the event of a no deal. The government have explicitly said they will prioritise medicine and chemicals needed for water treatment- so say 10% of our usual food imports get through. I would imagine there won't be evenly distributed around the country, either.

So people are:
-Getting in a supply of essentials to get them over the initial bumpy first few days/weeks.
-Getting in a store of European favourites that may increase in price or be hard to get if we exit the EU without a deal.
-Getting in a longer term store of food as a buffer against price rises and potential civil unrest.

Don't forget that some people rely on "free-from" food due to allergies and intolerances, and some children with SN are very particular about the food they will eat.

Building up a store cupboard slowly over time doesn't do any harm, and will help mitigate the impact of any short or mid-term shortages.

As I'm moving, it's going to be tricky for me to build up any major store, but when I do move I'm going to try to make sure I have a supply of food to keep me going (I'll be living alone, so I think this is a sensible thing to do anyway) if there are problems with food supply.

If you think there are going to be problems with medicines getting through, why don't you think there will be problems with food coming through?

My OH voted Leave but claims he was the victim of lies.

In fairness the lies were in 6 foot high letters on the side of a bus.

People enjoy a panic. Not much going on in their lives apparently.

Irrespective of whether there is much of anything on the shelves, given the supply chain model, prices of what is on the shelf could rise significantly.

I’d like to be avoid a situation where it’s “eat or keep roof over my head”.

I don't live in the UK anymore but I do have a decent stash of non perishable food items, toilet roll and candles etc. We get cyclones and floods here so I need it. I would do exactly the same in the UK because you never know what's coming. It does you no harm at all to have an emergency stash in case of something like this, especially if you have kids. It's not like the stuff can't be used in day to day life if the worst never comes.

Perhaps I'm turning into one of those crazy preppers...

every thread i read, its clear some people genuinely dont have the slightest idea of what no deal entails.

they are fucking thick - i dont think you can escape that fact.

People enjoy a panic. Not much going on in their lives apparently.

No one is panicking. Buying an extra tin of beans is not panicking.

We live on the edge of semi rural (6+ miles to a proper supermarket). It's sensible to buy a few extra tins every fortnight / loo roll on offer. If you don't want to then that's fine.

Also, it's worth bearing in mind that a lot of the food we produce in the UK (actually produce from the raw ingredients up, not just make/process) relies on farming subsidies which come from the EU.

AFAIK- and I know quite a few farmers so pay attention to this- there are no concrete plans to replace these from DEFRA. There have been vague promises, but that's not the same thing. For many dairy farmers, who have been struggling for a long time, this will be the final nail in the coffin- and they don't have much of a buffer to survive on whilst the government get their act together. I know of two farms who've sold up now rather than wait for no deal when they won't be able to get such a good price for their stock and their land.

Modern farming is also very reliant on mechanization- i.e. fuel and electricity- any power cuts or fuel shortages could have a big impact. It's also heavily reliant on antibiotics (this is a problem in itself, but probably one for another day), so any shortages in antibiotics could also impact production.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is that there could be a lot of bumps in the road and price rises even for UK produced goods.

Have a look at the packaging for your favourite dinner item - let’s say it’s a tesco ham and pineapple pizza

Now chances are it’s not even made in the UK, but say it is...

Look at the number of ingredients.
If just one of those ingredients is held up at customs, that product won’t be on the shelves.

Now look around your local tesco. How much do you think will be on those shelves a week after Brexit?

We are so enmeshed with EU that leaving it cannot be done like this, at this time, without massive disruption.

Johnson knows this.

But ... it could still happen. Or go to the wire, with a lot of disruption anyway.

There's no harm in it whatsoever and I'm getting a few things in. Pasta, rice, bread flour and yeast, tinned toms and various pulses dried and tinned, olive oil, spices, herbs. Bog roll.

Buy British.

Simple.

tom care to share your last three days’ meals please?

*Buy British.

Simple*

Well over time I'd like to think that this will happen more but in the short term I don't think we actually can because I don't think there are enough British products to fully support us.