Westminstenders: Prime Minister Johnson

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It is actually happening.

By 5pm tomorrow Johnson should be Prime Minister, if nothing major goes wrong for him.

Phillip Hammond is expected to resign early in the morning. And there maybe others.

Parliament goes into recess on Thursday. Giving Johnson only enough time to announce a Cabinet and maybe give a brief statement in Parliament.

As it stands Johnson will have an effective majority of 1 if the Brecon by-election goes the way expected next week.

Unless someone else defects. Which isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

We also have Charlie Elphicke now suspended and facing a court appearance on 6th September, just 3 days after Parliament returns after the summer recess.

Remember when parliament returns Johnson must get a Queen's Speech vote to pass to start the new session.

The return of Parliament is 8 weeks before 31st October.

If Johnson can't pass a Queen's Speech... Is there time for a GE before 31st October? By the skin of our teeth? Or a crucial recall petition?

So for all the talk that parliament can we prevented from being prorogued or that we can get a deal by the 31st October, there is a GE shaped problem.

As for Johnson's plan for Brexit. Don't expect to see him say anything but waffly bollocks before that key Queens Speech vote. He can't. Instead expect lots of domestic promises - in part to distract, in part in prep for a possible snap election.

Of course to have an extension the Prime Minister needs to ask for it. Would a GE be enough to get one? And would we be granted one?

On the flip to that is the prospect of May's Deal. Much has been made of its death. But some have said its premature to say that. At the eleventh hour should the situation arise would parliament vote for it, backstop and all, to prevent no deal? Its not beyond the realms of possibility.

All the talk of Johnson driving a change of direction by the force of personality is nonsense. Johnson can use his personality domestically for support, but he his personality offers nothing to the EU.

On top of this all we have the Iran Oil Tanker Crisis. The US were alleged to have set us up, and now told us to look after our own tankers. Leaving us to look to Europe for international security cooperation in the area... Irony isn't lost.

Let us see what tomorrow might bring though...

where are those racist comments? I haven’t seen any.

There must be a forum equivalent of "google it ...."

I completely fail to see a hint of racism in that post.

I'd suggest it is safer not to engage with the 'new' posters as they clearly are trying to stir up crap. Probably angry that our threads are possibly the longest running and have been predictors of many of the last 3 years with astonishing accuracy.

Don't engage, don't pander, don't get riled. We can all see they are idiots who don't need effort wasted on the same old arguments debunked well over 2 years ago and repeatedly on these threads.

Emilyontmoor But the country’s that take out more than they pay in, have the same advantage as us

Don't engage, don't pander, don't get riled.

Good advice, and I apologise to regular WMEnders for getting riled. It's the heat (which really hammers people with MS. Poor DW couldn't be more debilitated at the moment )

@urbanlife - no you do the maths - you show us - and make sure you include the £100+m that Cambridge University receives in funding research grants (I am not privy to the exact number- but as you are so confident you must know) . I believe oxford receives a similar amount - and other universities a lesser amount. But as you are so great at maths - I am sure you will be able to add it all up....

LonelyTiredandLow Please tell us what accuracies

mrs clearly something is wrong with your understanding of controlling immigration! Of course the government couldn’t stop anyone from the EU coming here, that was the whole point, David Cameron tried and failed. Merkel said no.
Laws - we couldn’t veto them that’s the whole point!
Yes the £££££££££££ and some

Yes I am bored too, but you obviously need reminding

Dementia care is a huge problem and getting worse.
( bitter knowledge)
It's another thread , but Boris saying ' we will sort it' was too simplistic for words.

The80sweregreat Give the man a chance, he only started yesterday

Heat is hard on us MS-ers @DGRossetti . Hope your DW can find a way through it.
If people want to get off on Johnson's bubblegum speeches, we have to let them. The crash when he disappoints them, as he inevitably will, is going to be fun to watch. Where fun is a relative term.

Hester, I agree but adult social care is a very big problem!
Theresa mentioned it three years ago and not much has changed.

lonely I have been here the whole time, like many Brexiteers. It is pointless posting a leave view, because the fear of remainers is too ingrained. There is no capacity to even consider another view.
We won’t agree, but at least we can be polite and civil no?

I still don't understand why all these leavers are posting on here right now, if it's all as good as they say. What do they care?

urban

Our entire GDP is 2 trillion, i doubt we give ALL of that plus plus to the EU

I think its you who needs to do the math

Because at last we can speak.

@urbanlife , I voted Remain. I supported WA or any version of Brexit that is compatible with GFA. I'm the sort of person you hope to bring onside. If you think I'm some sort of head in the clouds Remainer, you will never get any one onside.
I'll never be a hardcore Leaver so don't waste your time.

Because now we are actually leaving we feel relieved. The life raft made it in time.

bellinisurge Unfortunately he seems to be pushing the tide up hill, Everybody condemning him already, a tiny protest outside no 10, Give the guy a chance and let’s try to move this country forward, we have been treading water for over a decade now.

I don’t need to bring anyone on side

I am old and don't give twats a chance anymore. He is only interested in Boris Johnson.
@Hester54
If he is prepared to shaft all these fans and get WA through, then good luck to him. Anything that fucks over GFA is not acceptable.

Great comedy this afternoon

The80sweregreat Social care Adult and child, is something that needs lots of money and time, with an ageing population, not always ageing healthy, it’s a major problem that needs long term joined up thinking.

That argument was fought 3 years ago.

@urbanlife don't you think that 48% of voters are needed to "bring the country together "?