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All threads in brexit seem to anti brexit? Mn is usually balanced... Were are pro b threads?

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Knittedjimmychoos · 13/07/2019 23:59

Looking for some lighter brexit relief by fellow leavers... Every thread I've glanced at seems to be dominated by renainers?

Is there any space for leaver on here?

Just interested... I wanted to chat...

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Peregrina · 17/07/2019 22:49

There are of course Rumsfeld's 'unknown unknowns'.
One thing I gained from reading Peter Frankopan's book, The Silk Roads (recommended to me by someone on these threads) is that time and again countries became complacent, and a threat came apparently out of the blue. Some were relatively simple things like a ruler dying unexpectedly young, so no succession had been planned and a power struggle ensued. Others were more serious - an invasion from a quarter no one had expected but the idea of the country having taken its eye off the ball was a theme.

Peregrina · 17/07/2019 22:51

We took out No Deal insurance in the WTA - and then we realise that we forgot to pay the premium and suddenly the firm says No, you are not insured.

Ajaxx · 17/07/2019 22:55

ALL of what he has said was entirely possible while in the EU. That is true. But we have decided to leave the EU and go our own way. The EU is going to become more federal, a United States of Europe. That is what they want and I hope they make a success of it. The majority of the people of the UK do not want this. They don't like the way the top EU people are appointed. They are not comfortable with the EU's decision making processes. So they want the UK to be entirely independent. I expect both the EU and the UK to carry on successfully ... in their different ways.

ShatteredBrianne · 17/07/2019 22:57

Argh I can't take any more of mummy's nonsense. I hope mummy, that Brexit is all you hoped it would be and more. I for one, don't think it will be. I've decided your optimism is purely blind faith bordering on stupidity. I'm out.

ShatteredBrianne · 17/07/2019 22:59

The EU is going to become more federal, a United States of Europe.

Lather, rinse, repeat

mummmy2017 · 17/07/2019 23:01

You really do intend to pretend that nothing can be done, will succeed or be allowed to progress...
Wow....
How do you actually ever move on in Life if your so risk adverse?

DeDoRonRon · 17/07/2019 23:02

Oh god ... mummy2017 ... is back ...with her nonsense ...and endless ellipses...

ShatteredBrianne · 17/07/2019 23:06

Risk averse? Dint most people take calculated risks in life? Or do they just go making bad choices cos they couldn't be arsed weighing up the pros and cons?

Whatever mummy, you carry on with your belief in unicorns and tooth fairies and eternal fucking sunshine. Someone has to believe that crap I suppose.

mummmy2017 · 17/07/2019 23:06

Then how come we are here right now just like I told you the first day after the vote. ..
It's so blooming funny how your all. So nasty when I am just telling it like it is.....

ShatteredBrianne · 17/07/2019 23:09

You're telling nothing "like it is". You're painting the things you want to see whilst ignoring the facts. And the biggest fact of all. We haven't left yet!!

I tell you what, come back here 6 months from now and repeat that everything is fiiiiiiiinnnne. This will hit the poorest the hardest. Hope you've got some good fortune behind you.

Peregrina · 17/07/2019 23:11

I am not quite sure what you are trying to tell us mummmy. In just over three years we haven't yet left, because the Government which you expect to give us a steer isn't able to agree which direction they want to go in.

ShatteredBrianne · 17/07/2019 23:11

And you didn't tell me anything the first day after the vote, I wasnt on whatever thread you are referring to.

Where are we? Are we at the point we are supposed to be at? Shouldnt we have left earlier? You could confuse anybody with your ramblings

ShatteredBrianne · 17/07/2019 23:12

Mummy - with all due respect I think you need to grow up a bit.

mummmy2017 · 17/07/2019 23:16

Grow up....
Ramble....so funny.
All I keep saying is we will be leaving and you can't cope with that.
So you pretend I have a problem.
I am not the one with their fingers in their ears saying la la la can't hear you...

ShatteredBrianne · 17/07/2019 23:18

You can use full stops if you like.

ShatteredBrianne · 17/07/2019 23:20

I am not the one with their fingers in their ears saying la la la can't hear you...

If...you...say...so...

mummmy2017 · 17/07/2019 23:21

Peregrina · 17/07/2019 23:22

And the destination you want mummmy is.....?
It's a destination not available to you now?

(Like money for Education or the NHS, or fixing a broken housing market, or to stop wasting money on vanity projects... all of which are destinations on offer without having to make any fundamental changes to our relationship with other countries or ignoring international treaties (GFA)).

ContinuityError · 17/07/2019 23:25

The kinocks went in poor all three became MEP's. All rich now....only jobs....

Twaddle.

Only Glenys Kinnock was an MEP. Neil was an EU commissioner and Stephen is an MP.

ShatteredBrianne · 17/07/2019 23:30

I'm now wondering if mummy2017 is the OP. Same writing style, original OP not been back

mummmy2017 · 17/07/2019 23:36

Nope, not my thread ..not OP..
But I am just feed up of people who won't admit what is just around the corner and refuse to admit there can ever be any good in the UK's future...

ShatteredBrianne · 17/07/2019 23:39

But I am just feed up of people who won't admit what is just around the corner

Erm, I think that would be you you're describing

Peregrina · 17/07/2019 23:40

But I am just feed up of people who won't admit what is just around the corner and refuse to admit there can ever be any good in the UK's future...

The War years brought my MIL freedom from a restrictive home life and interesting well paid war work, so she could have been said to have had a 'good war'. But no one in their right minds would chose war - it would have been so much better if she could have been offered interesting well paid work without that.

Hotterthanahotthing · 17/07/2019 23:45

The one thing everyone can probably agree on is that parliament has made pigs ear of it all.
We had the referendum which was advisory and the MPs voted by a big majority to back Brexit.
They also like most of us at the start don't want no deal,bit the only way to have that is to agree a deal but they can't agree.All votes fall along with party lines which just tells us voters that they are more interested in power than what really happens to the country.
But why are we still beating each other up when on such a small minority the MPs picked it up and ran.Being rude to ordinary people for different views only causes bad feeling but really if you cared,on which ever side you should be lobbying your own MPs,holding them accountable.
Peregrina,I would like to know where you get your statistics for the being loads of applicants for medical and nursing degrees comes from.We have not enough suitable applicants and the attrition rate for nursing is higher than for any other degree,there is a lot of fudging of figures but we are loosing nurses faster than recruiting them.
We also have more staff from out side the EU than in,we always have but in our Trust for example we have more eastern Europeans but the Spanish Nurses that came over in a recruitment drive have mostly gone back after their 3 years.
Whatever deal or not we end up with we'll have to deal with and I am becoming less sure about wanting to stay part of an increasingly federal Europe.I do know that I have little say in this so bickering with my fellow woman on this site is helping no one.
The remainers on this site wishing old people dead always turns me off discussion.The first referendum that they voted in was yes for the Common market,not for what it is now.

Peregrina · 17/07/2019 23:53

Peregrina,I would like to know where you get your statistics for the being loads of applicants for medical and nursing degrees comes from.

I don't have any stats. Just personal knowledge of friends and family trying to get onto nursing and midwifery courses and having to have a couple of goes because the courses are full. Who have then gone on to be successful when they finally managed and completed the courses. Then MN talking about the competition for medical degrees.

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