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All threads in brexit seem to anti brexit? Mn is usually balanced... Were are pro b threads?

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Knittedjimmychoos · 13/07/2019 23:59

Looking for some lighter brexit relief by fellow leavers... Every thread I've glanced at seems to be dominated by renainers?

Is there any space for leaver on here?

Just interested... I wanted to chat...

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ShatteredBrianne · 17/07/2019 11:49

Feels like @Knittedjimmychoos has walked Remainers into a trap.

bellinisurge · 17/07/2019 11:54

I think No Dealers are putting us all in a trap.Grin

1tisILeClerc · 17/07/2019 12:05

{I'm.just wondering why the OP hasn't returned to the thread}

It's the usual 'leaver' tactic.
Crap in the corner and wander off.

DustyDiamond · 17/07/2019 12:29

MN Brexit board is a remainer echo chamber because leavers couldn't be arsed with the constant barrage of shit aimed at them.

Nothing more to it than that really.

1tisILeClerc · 17/07/2019 12:34

DustyDiamond
You could have come on here with your ideas to resolve the NI border, or to say how you think the NHS could be improved.
You could even have suggested ways to help the UK recover from leaving in October, but you haven't.

bellinisurge · 17/07/2019 12:36

"MN Brexit board is a remainer echo chamber because leavers couldn't be arsed with the constant barrage of shit aimed at them."

Diddums. Answering questions is just so unnecessary 😂

DustyDiamond · 17/07/2019 12:46

I used to look at this board & post quite regularly - haven't for ages now

Had a browse today & saw this thread & answered honestly as I view it is all

No need to answer questions as just get snotty replies either way & can't be arsed with it in all honesty

FWIW I'm a leader who would have been ok with the WA & was just as fucked off with the ERG lot as I was with the anti-brexit lot in Parliament

Extremes on both sides are as bad as each other imo

Peregrina · 17/07/2019 12:48

Or Leavers just can't be arsed, full stop.

slipperywhensparticus · 17/07/2019 12:53

Leavers tend to be like dogs sniff forever do a big shit and run

Remainers are the ones left holding the bag

bellinisurge · 17/07/2019 12:56

@DustyDiamond , then maybe you would see that there is quite a lot of "WA is better than No Deal on here ".
I have absolutely no problem being rude and insulting to No Dealers. They aren't the same as all Leave voters, although they try to pretend they are.

Whoseagooddoggiethen · 17/07/2019 12:57

I suspect it is because there is no actual proper explanation for leaving which is why only the remainers who are baffled at the leave vote to begin with are the ones posting. This is from someone in Ireland who is only looking from the outside in.

Peregrina · 17/07/2019 12:58

It doesn't seem unreasonable to me when Leavers say they voted to '[make our own laws' or 'sovereignty' or 'control our borders' to ask them about which laws they want to make, or which borders they want more control over, or do they mind sacrificing sovereignty to the USA or China.

DustyDiamond · 17/07/2019 13:04

Bellini - I've not actively looked through the Brexit threads in a very long while now in honesty so would have missed the support for WA from posters on here - was just having a rare browse today & saw this thread

I've always been an advocate of an EEA/EFTA style Brexit for the initial stage - then up to subsequent govts to go harder leave or stay like that longer term

Sadly, the EEA/EFTA option was poisoned by extremists on both sides of the fence which is shit

DustyDiamond · 17/07/2019 13:06

😂😂 just seen my earlier post autocorrected to "I'm a leader" - meant 'leaver' obvs - wasn't some kind of weird flex

pointythings · 17/07/2019 13:12

Diamond I think a lot of us Remainers would have resigned ourselves to EEA/EFTA, but I for one will never resign myself to going along with No Deal and pretending it will all be great. That's too much to ask.

I have several friends who voted Leave - not one supports No Deal.

bellinisurge · 17/07/2019 13:16

Exactly @pointythings .

DGRossetti · 17/07/2019 13:17

I suspect it is because there is no actual proper explanation for leaving

All threads in brexit seem to anti brexit? Mn is usually balanced... Were are pro b threads?
bellinisurge · 17/07/2019 13:18

Still my fave @DGRossetti

DustyDiamond · 17/07/2019 13:21

Unfortunately the whole thing was poisoned by extremists on both sides Pointy.

Hard Remainers refusing to countenance anything other than remain & subverting any & all attempts at leaving - and hard leavers spinning EEA/EFTA as 'not brexit' & refusing to engage with it at all

The whole Brexit thing has really shone a light on the self-serving nature, incompetence, arrogance & narcissism of many of our elected representatives
(I include MPs of all parties, and both hard leave & hard remain advocates in that)

There are some who have shown themselves to be pragmatic & reasonable but they have often been drowned out by the shouty bastards

bellinisurge · 17/07/2019 13:58

There are very few "hard Remainers" on here. Plenty of "hard Leavers"

mummmy2017 · 17/07/2019 14:24

But don't you think May should take some blame for her wishy washy stance...
We put a person who didn't one something in power and she locked herself into a no win from the start trying to please everyone. While really not wanting anything but her own way.
Labour should have been a proper opposition... But were wishy washy too.

DorisDaysDadsDogsDead · 17/07/2019 14:26

The Leavers from the very start refused to go for EEA/EFTA (despite that being what most many of them were pretending to campaign for before the referendum. TM laid down her red lines which expressly denied that as an option. Many Remainers would probably have accepted that, as it would have left most of our rights intact. But it is the Quitlings who have refused to countenance anything but the hardest of hard Brexits, and it is them alone to blame for the shit that we're in at the moment.

You , can whine all you like about "hard Remainers" - Remainers have been given no consideration from the very start, no suggestion of a compromise that they can get behind, basically ignored. Can you really blame us for being just a tiny bit perturbed by this?

1tisILeClerc · 17/07/2019 14:31

May's real problem was not containing the ERG. If she had locked them in a cupboard and taken a more moderate stance from the word go, things would have been a lot easier. A hard (no deal) Brexit will kill the UK completely as to survive it HAS to trade on reasonable terms with the EU. The UK can't sustain a 10% hike in prices (due to tariffs) for then next 5 years or more, and shipping food in from beyond Europe (for the staples) cannot be afforded.
May was talking about 'ambitious deals' and so on, but the ERG took her up a side ally and mugged her.

jasjas1973 · 17/07/2019 14:34

Hard Remainers refusing to countenance anything other than remain & subverting any & all attempts at leaving - and hard leavers spinning EEA/EFTA as 'not brexit' & refusing to engage with it at all

I'd be careful re writting history... :)

May was a supposed remainer (who became a Leaver) but once she set her Red lines, EFTA EEA were gone forever.

Nothing to do with hardcore Remainers but everything to do with leavers wanting an independent trade policy, any other form of brexit is incompatible with this.

However, i don't know any remainers in RL who want Brexit at all now, in any form! as more and more evidence points to what a bad idea brexit is.

DGRossetti · 17/07/2019 14:36

May's real problem was not containing the ERG

I think it was more fundamental than that. Mays real problem was totally failing to realise that the Tory party she thought she was giving her career to save no longer exists. Even now, "moderate" Tories haven't quite cottoned onto that fact. Much as the original National Socialists failed to realise they'd been subverted - until the night of the Long Knives showed them the reality.