We won’t get Farage as PM, will we?!

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DH seems to think the polls are predicting this and wants to emigrate!!

Here's a pic especially for you Peregrina - I think he'd prefer to visit the gents at No.10

Ugh seen enough of his ugly mug to last a lifetime - but his party isn't a few weeks old - it's rebranded UKIP which has been around for at least 10 years or more. He likes you to think it's a new party, but he's a spiv. Who would buy a used car from him?

America elected Donald Trump. Anytjings possible

Rebranded or not, they came a very close second with not even a postage stamp size manifesto, it was zero/nada/zilch.

Actually, what you should find a bit concerning is that a party that is a matter of a few weeks old and with no manifestos whatsoever came 2nd in a by election and only by a couple of percentage points.

Yes, that is concerning (although to be honest, Farage has basically sucked out the less extreme elements of UKIP rather than “creating” a new party).

It’s concerning when you see the Brexit Party candidate floundering (a polite way of saying lying through his teeth) through blaming the EU for education policies in the UK.

It’s concerning that people will suck this up as some sort of truth.

And, of course, no manifesto means that the Brexit Party has zero accountability to the electorate.

How many votes would he have got if the Tory party hadn't been in meltdown?

It is very worrying that people will vote for a party with no manifesto, nor any accountability to the people who have paid up as supporters. I wonder do they normally make life's decisions like that i.e. just take a complete gamble? Who will they complain to when Farage lets them down?

His party is just a protest vote. He’s never come close to becoming an MP.

UKIP was also a protest vote and did very well at one time in Local Elections. Mind you, as soon as they got elected as Councillors, they started squabbling and falling out, and the majority didn't do any work, so duly got rewarded by being thrown out at the next election.

Ditto with the European Parliament in 2014 - at the beginning they had 24 MEPs, by the end they were down to 6 and again few of them bothered to do the work they were paid for. We were also treated on the EU election night to one of the UKIPers, now Brexit, wittering on about being a new Party - when she had already been sitting in the EU Parliament under the Brexit Party banner as soon as Farage registered the name.

It could easily repeat itself with 'The Brexit Party'. Will any current MPs do a Carswell/Reckless and sit as Brexit Party MPs? Carswell was the only one to get re-elected under the UKIP banner, but again, he jumped ship before the end. How long before they all start falling out?

The difference is that we now have the so called prize of Brexit to focus their minds.
Plus both parties are falling apart & there are many MPs in both main parties who could sit under a BXP banner.

The problem we have is that should brexit happen on 31/10, the economy will face turmoil, Farage will blame the tories, the brexit supporting tory & labour voters will all agree and he'll do very well in any GE, as he will if brexit doesn't happen.

Farage will have learnt from his time at ukip.

Farage has been doing cheap 'publicity stunts' for the Farage party' for many years but failing when it comes to real issues and real work.
It is very easy to spout 'failing democracy' which has no practical and monetary value and cannot be 'measured' in any way.
What is important is that those who have gone along with his notion of 'regaining democracy' have failed to understand that the UK hadn't lost it in the first place and that they have applied no critical thinking whatsoever into how a 'leave the EU' will pan out.
The fact that no other country has attempted to shoot or bomb anyone within the UK in the last 74 years is wasted on them.

Both main parties now support leaving the EU... so the electorate look at that and say "well, it can't be that bad then"

This plays into Farages hands in a way it never did before.

I listened to Hunt talking to Nick Robinson (R4's political thinking) Hunt said that Switzerland is fiercely european, trades easily with the EU but isn't in the CU or SM.... this wasn't challenged.

The narrative that we can leave the EU and all will stay the same is a very common view.

They say that one reason Labour won Peterborough was because they knew where their voters were and were able to get them out.
Farage will have to build up the same sort of knowledge.

What we need now is a by-election in a once safe Tory seat, to see whether the Brexit party can entice the voters across, or whether the proverbial pig in blue rosette will still win.

The next few months will be interesting, and I am not sure that I want to live in interesting times.

Nick Robinson ought to know that Switzerland is in the Single Market and is in Schengen. I suspect that it would be quite difficult for them not to be, knowing how many people cross the French/Swiss border for work.

It's not in the CU and if any one thinks that the trade is frictionless then they have another think coming.

You would think that after three years, some of them would have bothered themselves to learn the basics.

What we need now is a by-election in a once safe Tory seat, to see whether the Brexit party can entice the voters across, or whether the proverbial pig in blue rosette will still win.

A stockbroker belt safe Tory seat could easily go to the LDs

There are a lot of Tory remainers, especially among working-age Tory voters, who are probably the most forgotten group in all of this.

I understand he does not want to be PM, but as one of the few people who can sort Brexit out in favour of the country and not the EU I would be more than happy

{I understand he does not want to be PM, but as one of the few people who can sort Brexit out in favour of the country and not the EU I would be more than happy}

NO!
Farage is just an agitator. He has failed at everything he claims to represent. He is simply a mouthpiece/puppet of some wealthy backers who would be very happy to see the EU damaged.
He 'lost' the fishing quotas by failing to attend the sessions in the EP and then did not put the UK fishermen's case forward.

What we need now is a by-election in a once safe Tory seat,

I was thinking of the one in Lincolnshire back in the Autumn of 2016, where a Tory with principles resigned because he felt the party was not the one he joined. While the Media screamed their heads off about Labour being pushed into 4th place - in a seat which almost certainly had never ever been represented by anyone other than the Tories, they missed seeing just how badly UKIP had done.

To be fair to Farage - he did pick this up and distanced himself from UKIP smartish.

@Suwi
How will Farage sort brexit out, in your view? How will we benefit from him sorting it out?

If you believe the media farridge scurried off to the khazi when Thursday's result was announced so why was that I wonder?
No he cannot sort out anything he's only competent at rabble rousing, his party do not have any policies other than brexit and what's the point of electing people to the European Parliament who absolutely do not want to be in Europe, doesn't make any sense to me. What's his plan for the future once we're out does he have one or has he not thought about that yet?
Long term planning has always served my little business well but hey that's just me but now I do not know wtf is going to happen so cannot plan for anything and hope I won't go under due to the most single act of self harm the Country's encountered for years

I know that Lincolnshire MP, he was and is a man of principles.

suwi how exactly?

Particularly as he did a puss poor job as an MEP

I understand he does not want to be PM, but as one of the few people who can sort Brexit out in favour of the country and not the EU I would be more than happy

I know leavers get a little sensitive when called "Thick" but how exactly is Farage going to become PM within a timescale that will enable him to sort out brexit in favour of the UK ?

Would he revoke? lol!

Farage can sort Brexit out? How? What evdience do you have of his negotiating skills?

Faridge can sort Brexit out! A little bit of wee came out I was laughing so hard at that 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂