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We won’t get Farage as PM, will we?!

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fedup21 · 02/06/2019 17:52

DH seems to think the polls are predicting this and wants to emigrate!!

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bellinisurge · 03/06/2019 06:45

I presume you mean RemainerGrin.
I voted Remain and I think No Deal is a stupid fucking idea. I was prepared to accept WA. I think NI should be a special economic zone. Does that make me a Remainer.
When the Brexit Party has the largest number of seats in the UK Parliament using our FPTP system, then I'll worry about Faridge becoming PM. Until then, it's just fucking headlines in tbe DM.

bellinisurge · 03/06/2019 06:48

We had a referendum on scrapping FPTP at the beginning of the Tory/Lib Dem govt. FPTP won. Settled for 40 years then.

Piggywaspushed · 03/06/2019 06:56

I can't believe MN posts with their typical 'go and live in Stamford; it's so much naicer' posts are being used as evidence to suggest Peterborough has some kind of reputation. It really doesn't. Bland is the word I would use to sum it up. Perhaps a tad dull. Disappointing. But not the ghetto.

EllebellyBeeblebrox · 03/06/2019 07:20

I don't like Stamford, full of snooty people Smile

leckford · 03/06/2019 07:33

He would be better than Corbyn, mind you the scales have dropped from people’s eyes about Magic Grandpa, fortunately thanks to their internal voting system they seem to be stuck with him.

bellinisurge · 03/06/2019 07:38

Faridge will never be PM.
A - because he, like Magic Grandpa, is a twat and enough people can see it; and
B - our UK FPTP system won't allow it. Change FPTP if you want it. No, wait, that was agreed in a People's Vote in the last 10 years. Do we have new information now? Well, better have a second referendum then😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

EllebellyBeeblebrox · 03/06/2019 07:43

I'm not denying magic grandpa has his faults, but I'd still rather it was him than fucking Farage. But then I'd rather it was a tag team of my cat and my 5 year old than Farage.

Blossom28 · 03/06/2019 07:48

@flobochin but we are always going to be in Europe! It’s like Zimbabwe wishing to be out of Africa Confused

Flobochin · 03/06/2019 07:54

@Blossom28 you know very well what I meant, dont be so pedantic, it's unbecoming.

Blossom28 · 03/06/2019 09:47

No- the whole concept people are spouting about ‘being out of’ Europe is unbecoming. It is a continent, like it or not you live in Europe. Smile

SilverDapple · 03/06/2019 10:20

The idea of people blindly voting BXP into Westminster on the basis of a single issue terrifies me.

They have no policies yet, zero.

I find it utterly staggering that people are so whipped up about Brexit that they can't see beyond the tunnel vision.

What about education? Healthcare? Welfare? The economy? These are the sorts of issues we need to be looking at when we consider who to give our vote, yet they can't be considered if the party in question doesn't even have policies on these areas 🤦‍♀️

There are already whispers of Farage wanting to sell the NHS off to the Americans- who knows whether it's true or not because they haven't got a bloody manifesto! I like to know where a ship is headed before I jump onto it.

Dangerous times and it seems a large proportion of people are oblivious to it. Scary stuff.

1tisILeClerc · 03/06/2019 10:32

{What about education? Healthcare? Welfare? The economy? These are the sorts of issues we need to be looking at when we consider who to give our vote,}

There is the immediate problem that neither Tories or Labour have actually covered themselves in glory over the last couple of decades tackling these issues. They should have, could have, but didn't.
To really sort the mess out is going to be stupendously expensive, falling at a time that the UK is busy ushering industry that might provide the finance out of the door.

Mistigri · 03/06/2019 10:35

They have no policies yet, zero.

Two, kinda ... Make the NHS into an insurance system and cure the gays.

PortiaCastis · 03/06/2019 10:36

I'm Cornish so come from one of the Country's most deprived areas and cannot understand why people voted in Widdicombe as MEP this will be counter productive and I can't see farridge and his band of merry men or any other government replacing the EU funding we've received here and it is considerable.

www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/exactly-what-eu-funded-cornwall-2697596

SilverDapple · 03/06/2019 10:38

I don't disagree that we aren't exactly spoilt for choice @1tisILeClerc but what makes people so sure that the BXP and their completely non-existent manifesto are likely to do a better job?Confused

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

SilverDapple · 03/06/2019 10:43

'Two, kinda ... Make the NHS into an insurance system and cure the gays.'

Don't forget banning HIV+ immigrants @Mistigri

1tisILeClerc · 03/06/2019 10:51

{but what makes people so sure that the BXP and their completely non-existent manifesto are likely to do a better job?}

Most people have no idea how totally integrated the UK is with the EU and it is only those who have direct dealings, maybe a company shipping department, or someone involved in technical cross EU standards who get a glimpse into exactly how integrated we are, and that is only in respect to their field of 'expertise'.
The concept of 'just leave' is simple but decoupling and replacing/renegotiating all the treaties that have been developed and added piecemeal over 40 odd years is truly mind boggling.
Getting it 'right' without currently unforeseen issues will be a challenge.

jasjas1973 · 03/06/2019 14:45

En Marche was formed in 2016, shortly after, they formed France's Govt.

If BRX contest all the English seats and continue to take votes from disgruntled Cons/Lab supporters, there is no reason on earth they cannot, at the very least be the major party in a coalition government, FPTP or PR it doesn't matter.

Farage would have to win a seat but no reason why he wouldn't, he and Richard Tice make a formidable debating team and should they continue to be successful, will attract ex tory donors and current MPs

I believe brexit as unleashed an awful lot of discontentment and there are millions of people who don't normally vote, if they do and vote BRX, we are in for shock.

bellinisurge · 03/06/2019 15:22

Faridge has yet to win a seat in Parliament. He's tried several times.

jasjas1973 · 03/06/2019 16:16

Yep but that was then, everything has changed, lets see what happens in Peterborough on Thursday, i think this will be the first of many MPs for BXP.

bellinisurge · 03/06/2019 16:19

Is Faridge standing? He had a habit of falling out with everyone who isn't him. Party discipline isn't their thing.

fairweathercyclist · 03/06/2019 16:26

Its not going to happen. He's not an MP. And even if he were: in a GE people will troop back to their blue or red rosettes. The Euros were a protest vote and a low turnout.

PortiaCastis · 03/06/2019 16:49

Wasn't the turnout for the Euro elections only 39%, here's an analysis of turnout for GEs since 1945

www.ukpolitical.info/Turnout45.htm

Average turnout is about 68%

Crazy crazy crazy to vote for a party with no policies and the BXP candidate for Peterborough was spouting on R4 that the EU are responsible for child poverty, yet again someone blames the EU for the fault of successive UK governments and hasn't bothered looking past the end of their nose

time4chocolate · 03/06/2019 17:05

The Euros were a protest vote and a low turnout
And even if he were: in a GE people will troop back to their blue or red rosettes.

I think every election that we have from now on in will be a protest vote until the EU elephant is decided one way or the other (even then it’s a big ask) I can’t see manifestos from any party making much of a difference in the interim. If we called a GE tomorrow it will be a re-run of the Euros between Libdem and BXP just with a bigger turnout. IMO.

jasjas1973 · 03/06/2019 21:43

Rarely agree with you Time but you re right, Brexit will define this decade.
However, i feel that regardless of what the Cons or Labour do with brexit, voter patterns have changed, just as they did with the Liberals 100 years ago and switch to the Labour party, it took just a few years to decimate the Liberals.

Farage won't make the same mistakes with the BXP as he did with Ukip.

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