Westministenders: Another Thread, another Shit Show. Its Trump Week

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That is all.

I doubt he'll turn up there!!

You'd hope not!

Once again, thank you RTB 🏅

So this week-Trump and his good friends:
•Boris
•The Faragist

How can this be happening. Please tell me this week we will finally hit rock bottom.

Wishing my life away- this time next week Donnie will have gone.

Pmk.

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But if he did he would be the BEST gnome and those slugs wouldn't mess with a gnome that is so GREAT, just he would be the BEST thing for your garden.

I hear he thinks Meghan is "nasty" and she is staying home with the baby while the rest of the royals shake the tiny hand. Good for her.

PMK

Coincidentally I’m going to be out of the country when Trump visits. Again. Although I think I was on holiday last time (this time I’m away on business).

Cat on a place mat

Nicely done NorthWest.

Pmk

New poll from Optimum:

Brexit in lead GE poll for first time at 26%!

Labour - 22%, Tories - 17%, Lib Dem - 16%

Before Remainers panic, it’s worth noting that Optimum’s last EU election poll - carried out a few days before the elections - overstated BP by 6%, and understated LD by 5%. Also, YouGov - the pollster who had LDs in the lead in yesterdays poll - was the only pollster (I believe) who correctly predicted LD would outperform Labour.

I just want it to stop now. Some sort of resolution would be good.

I just want it to stop now. Some sort of resolution would be good.

Revoking would mean we could get on with life and focus on the things that matter.
No-deal Brexit would mean we’re mired in Brexit-related mess for many years.

Those are the only two realistic options now. Only in March this year, I was willing enough Tories to vote for TMs deal to take us out... so we could move on. That didn’t happen, and I realised the stark dilemma facing us, and am now fully supportive of those who wish to stop this madness and prevent us from self-destructing as we crash out.

Coffee grounds are supposed to repel slugs Yolofish.

Before Remainers panic, it’s worth noting that Optimum’s last EU election poll - carried out a few days before the elections - overstated BP by 6%, and understated LD by 5%.
Yes but with FPTP it would mean they'd get an overwhelming majority in England. With Farage as PM. It is a horrible thought.

unless the official opposition grows a spine does a volte face and actually opposes and tries a Vote of No Confidence again and some of the Conservative MPs (probably quite a few hmm because of a few pro-Brexit Labour MPs who are likely to support the government confused) choose to vote with them to bring down their own government

The Government, including their DUP allies, currently have a working majority of just six, so just four Tories would need to switch (3 if Bercow broke with convention voted against the Government!). There are easily four Tories who would do this if it came to it.... there are probably 20, possibly 30, or maybe even more (for instance those who up to now have been supportive of the Government’s position on Brexit such as Philip Hammond) who would.

Although Labour has its hard Brexiteers, it would be unspeakably astounding if any of them actually supported what would be a right-wing Tory PM Government in a vote of no confidence! They would be saying that they wanted a no-deal Brexit led by the Tories until the end of this term of Parliament in 2022 rather than a chance for their party (led by a Lexiter) to form a Government. However much they might want Brexit, to do that would be utterly unconscionable. Even if one or two did go mad and give a vote of confidence in the Government, the number of Tory anti no-deal rebels should be more than sufficient.

Yes but with FPTP it would mean they'd get an overwhelming majority in England. With Farage as PM. It is a horrible thought.

Well,’possibly if that poll is correct (which it might be)... but my point was that that pollster’s recent previous record appears to be skewed somewhat in favour of the Brexit Party.

Also, note that the Remainer party votes are ahead of No-deal ones... Come a GE, there’s very likely to be tactical voting to avoid splitting the Remainer vote. This should blunt the BPs ability to win seats. Look at UKIP in 2015... lots of tactical voting there keeping them out everywhere with the exception of Clacton.

There are a few Labour Brexiters who might vote with the govt to save Brexit
I'd expect Hoey to do so

I'd be more convinced that the necessary 5-6 Tories would vote NC if there were a "normal" Labour lede, not Corbyn

If the polls later suggest a big Tory-Brexit majority, then those MPs - and all those from all the Remain parties - might actually have to provide Confidence & Supply for Corbyn to take over, because a GE would just let in No Deal

It would be unwise to bet the future of the country on the belief that some polls over-estimate the Faragists

While UK poliicians rearrange the Torytanic deckchairs, power drifts away from the UK:

The European Banking Authority Leaves London

https://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2019/05/31/the-european-banking-authority-leaves-london/#54eb85e51715

Yesterday, May 30, an important part of London’s influence in the European financial world quietly slipped away.
< taking back control ? Losing what control we have >

The European Banking Authority (EBA) closed its Canary Wharf office.

There was no press release, no news report, only a statement on its websitee^ giving its new address.
On Monday, June 3, it will re-open in Paris, France.

< the EBA don't want to rub it in publicly, neither does the EU, to avoid tabloid rage >

The EBA’s relocation is, of course, due to Brexit.

The Peterborough by-election may well increase the number of pro-Brexit MPs, if, as is possible, the Turquoise Party wins it from Labour

And I agree with BigChoc : I think Hoey may well not vote with Labour in a VONC, as she doesn't trust the Labour Party (even if she does trust the Lexiter Corbyn ) to follow through on her beloved Brexit

And in the event of a GE, she wouldn't be the Labour MP any more for her constituency, given that they have called for the Labour Whip to be withdrawn from her and want her to be de-selected.

Another Tory Remainer MP nobbled:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-berkshire-48484531

A former government minister has lost a vote of no confidence in him by his local Conservative association.

Phillip Lee, MP for Bracknell, said the move had been "inspired" by the single issue of Brexit.
Bracknell Conservative Association called the vote after 53 members signed a petition.

< 53 ! Talk about a Rotten Borough .... >
.....
He previously claimed more than half those who signed the petition had joined the association less than a year ago
.....
Those behind the campaign had "done nothing but spread hatred, intimidation and distrust over a single issue"

Woke in the middle of the night and was reading stuff. I'm so UK focussed I hadn't twigged that Bannon is attempting to help the far-right grow its reach in Europe generally and funding extremist parties in other countries..

Why focus on Europe? So sinister.

What's wrong with Australia or Brazil or somewhere closer to home like Canada.

"The Italian government has delivered a potentially fatal blow to Steve Bannon’s plans to transform a medieval monastery near Rome into a training academy for the far-right.

Italy’s cultural heritage ministry announced on Friday (May 31) that it would revoke a lease granted to Bannon after reports of fraud in the competitive tender process. The former Breitbart chief and aide to US president Donald Trump was reportedly paying €100,000 ($110,000) per year to rent the 13th Century Carthusian monastery, but now will have to search for another spot.

The Italian state allowed the conservative Catholic organization Dignitatis Humanae Institute (DHI) to use the building early last year. Bannon happens to be a trustee of the institute, and planned to convert the space into a “gladiator school for cultural warriors,” where students would learn philosophy, theology, history, and economics, and receive political training from the former Trump aide himself.

But earlier this month, Italian newspaper Repubblica reported that a letter used to guarantee the lease was forged. The letter had the signature of an employee of Danish bank Jyske, but the bank said that employee hadn’t worked there for years, and called the letter fraudulent."

qz.com/1632565/italy-to-evict-steve-bannon-from-his-far-right-training-academy/

What's wrong with Australia or Brazil or somewhere closer to home like Canada

I don't know about Australia or Canada but he certainly successfully targeted Brazil (big supporter of Bolsonaro)

Woke early ( again) and was reading stuff. I'm so UK focussed I hadn't twigged that Bannon is attempting to help the far-right expand its training in other European countries generally and funding extremist parties in other places too.

Why focus on Europe? It's So sinister.

Ideally just keep your propaganda to the US but if picking on other places, why is? What about Australia or Brazil or somewhere closer to home like Canada?

"The Italian government has delivered a potentially fatal blow to Steve Bannon’s plans to transform a medieval monastery near Rome into a training academy for the far-right.

Italy’s cultural heritage ministry announced on Friday (May 31) that it would revoke a lease granted to Bannon after reports of fraud in the competitive tender process. The former Breitbart chief and aide to US president Donald Trump was reportedly paying €100,000 ($110,000) per year to rent the 13th Century Carthusian monastery, but now will have to search for another spot.

The Italian state allowed the conservative Catholic organization Dignitatis Humanae Institute (DHI) to use the building early last year. Bannon happens to be a trustee of the institute, and planned to convert the space into a “gladiator school for cultural warriors,” where students would learn philosophy, theology, history, and economics, and receive political training from the former Trump aide himself.

But earlier this month, Italian newspaper Repubblica reported that a letter used to guarantee the lease was forged. The letter had the signature of an employee of Danish bank Jyske, but the bank said that employee hadn’t worked there for years, and called the letter fraudulent."

qz.com/1632565/italy-to-evict-steve-bannon-from-his-far-right-training-academy/

Sorry for the double post. Thought it hadn't posted!