Westministenders: Another Thread, another Shit Show. Its Trump Week

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@OhLookHeKickedTheBall I've reported so many anti-English threads and comments in the last year and they never get pulled. It really angers me that the English are fair game to have racism aimed at them because of England's less than savoury history (as though it's the only country to have such a history) I once questioned how long the English would be held responsible for things that happened hundreds of years ago and was told that it would be pretty much forever, accused of goady fuckery and had my thread taken down. I'm part Irish,a small unknown part until I trace my grandpa's family, no agenda, I'd just noticed that the English are often fair game. In brexit too they are blamed even though large numbers voted remain. I'm in England and everyone I know voted remain. Many cities voted remain: Manchester, Bristol, Leeds, London, to mane a few)I hate being tarred with the racist brush because I'm in England.
Anyway, the other thread is holding it's own. It seems most people aren't engaging and are refraining from counterattacks which is wise. Facts aren't always welcome on that kind of thread. Calm requests for facts are met with silence or vitriol or just nonsense. I've kept away for a while for that reason as found it stressful to read so much bollocks portrayed as fact and written with such anger.

I am surprised by how much I'm liking Rory Stewart. Does he really not stand a chance?

It's true Gove admits to taking some Colombian Marching Powder

@BigChocFrenzy thanks. Seems too far away. Too much destruction can happen before then. It seems at least 5 years since the last GE as so much has happened yet nothing has changed.

@tobee that explains his official photo

gove on coke - Just Say No Kids!! most cokeheads are incredibly boring, but it still doesnt make me feel sorry for sarah vine...

Rory Stewart taking opium is somehow more interesting.

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I liked the gag on Mock the Week that even when Tories do drugs, they do M&S drugs ....

btw, I saw the "no depths" thread. I also notice the total lack of connection to the real world in it, so decided to stay out.

This is an interesting article that supports your last one BigChoc suggesting only wealthy leave voters care about leaving as much as remainers. They harnessed the Tory hatred of austerity and protest vote IMO.

It's mischievous editing, really, but I do love the photo The Guardian has put with this headline!

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/07/trump-uk-state-visit-people-had-never-seen-the-queen-have-a-better-time

Doing coke is common, if not suburban (nothing wrong with suburbia, BTW), and I expect many journalists do it. It might explain Gove’s tendency to babble on, I often anticipate him segueing into complete nonsense while continuing to sound reasonable.
Smoking opium (albeit poor quality opium) as a guest at a wedding in Afghanistan, in order not to offend your host, is good manners.

That article is really interesting, Lonely. Though the chances of politicians paying any attention to it are between zero and not in a million years.

Imagine Govey coked up! Hilarious.

Rory Stewart’s opium is much more interesting. Gauche.

I got annoyed at Sky News (Press Preview) last night going on about them being "drug abusers"

Having a drug once (haven't read Gove's story, so don't know if it was once or repeated but in Rory's case it was a single occasion) does not, of it itself, a drug abuser make

I was offered a spliff 40 years ago at Uni. It had no effect on (the fact that I didn't smoke - then or since - probably had something to do with it as I literally didn't know how to inhale ) - does that make me a drug abuser?

I was given heroin when I was having ds - only in a medical context it's called diamorphine - is that drug abuse?

Ds was watching with me and also getting annoyed with them: who defines what is or isn't a drug and therefore drug abuse? Arguably, nicotine and alcohol are more dangerous drugs.

I would even say that (semi) regular drug use isn't necessarily abusing drugs either. Abuse is when becomes a problem (money / health / relationships / addiction) surely, not something you can give or take?

A one-off at a wedding is certainly not abuse.

I actually detest the media spin on everything at the moment. I don't trust anything as being accurate now.

It does explain why Farage dressed up in tweeds for his first BXP photo, if you remember? I think he knows he managed to con the media into navel gazing about whether they were "in a bubble" for nearly 3 years. It is what has led to these ridiculous vox pops where everyone in every town seems to have voted leave

I agree nowordforfluffy

I can't see Rory Stewart winning the Leadership contest this time. I think he might well be the Party Leader but one, and be sensible enough to take part in a genuine coalition, when the Tories wreck yet another PMship over Europe. However, if they wreck Boris's career as a PM, I won't shed any tears.

I'm irritated that Boris has trousered £700,000 for speeches alone, since he quit the Cabinet
Then there's his annual £ ¼ million for writing more lies for the Torygraph

I couldn't care less about minor drug use years ago

Marina Hyde re Gove

Far more important than Gove getting coked up years ago

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/07/tory-fantasists-theresa-may-leadership-candidates-brexit

In the immediate wake of the EU referendum vote, when Michael felt forced to knife Boris Johnson and embark on his own leadership run, he justified it thus:

“I compare it to a group of people standing outside a collapsing building, wondering who is going to rescue a child inside. 🙄
I thought: well, I don’t think I’ve got either the strength or the speed for this,
but as I looked around, I thought, God, I’m at least as strong and at least as fast as the others.

I’ve got to try to save the child.” 🙄

I will never get over this characterisation.
IT WAS YOU WHO STARTED THE FIRE, YOU MAD BASTARD!

< crazy but some Bexiters do see themselves as heroic, for coping with a disaster they 100% created. Narcs & twats >

Shouldn't be surprised Trump thought Ireland had a wall

• he also thinks the moon is part of Mars ! 😂🤦🏻‍♀️

(the moon was formed 4.5 billion years ago, from the debris after a collision between Earth and a large object - Mars was NOT involved)

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

For all of the money we are spending, NASA should NOT be talking about going to the Moon

• We did that 50 years ago. < yes, we should, because it is a realistic stepping stone into the rest of the solar system >

They should be focused on the much bigger things we are doing, including Mars (of which the Moon is a part) , < 🤦🏻‍♀️ >
Defense and Science!

pretty just so you can define whether he was , or not, Gove has admitted his coke uses was 'on several occasions' (ie all the time, when he was a journalist)

I can't think of a more City Boy/ posh Tory Twat thing to do. (and Gove isn't actually very posh, so what a silly man)

But, then, I'm a teacher, so...

BigChoc that metaphor was in appalling bad taste considering Grenfell

I still think the referendum was to distract from the populations' mistrust of the Tories and hatred of austerity. I know most of my friends were gearing up for a Labour vote and a huge shift. Suddenly Brexit ref and boom we're back to years of Tory rule and people focusing on Brexit for 3 years. Now JC has had his brightest hour and the threat he posed has passed, unless he steps down. Meanwhile he is busy changing Labour because obviously his stance on Social Mobility was what people were rallying against in the European Elections