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Westminstenders: Local Elections Madness

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RedToothBrush · 27/04/2019 22:37

This week has gone from banging your head against the wall to wanting to bang your head through it.

Labour have voted to support a 2nd ref as their EU election campaign strategy. Only for Corbyn to ignore it. And a row has broken out.

Change UK seem well on track to make everyone else look professional and to look as 'liberal elite' as humanly possible in a real life reverse paraody of themselves.

The Brexit Party is going from strength to strength with the most wtf candidates imaginable and Farage is happy cos his mate is coming to tea with the Queen.

The Liberal Democrats have decided that anti semitism is OK in an effort to keep Labour seats.

And the Conservatives. Where to start? Probably with the Tory Leadership Election infighting which looks suspiciously as if its now breached national security.

As for Brexit. No one really wants to talk about it. Local elections are next week. May is now apparently supporting the Malthouse Compromise. Be warned, it is difficult to see it as anything but a Trojan Horse for No Deal. Not that everyone has worked this out yet. But until we have the blood bath of the local elections over and done with on Thursday, don't expect much to happen.

Then expect the Tories to lose their minds...

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bellinisurge · 29/04/2019 09:01

@Motheroffourdragons , not the PC brigade, people like me who want to stamp out any normalisation of assassinations. Following actual assassinations.

Peregrina · 29/04/2019 09:02

Cameron, May, Johnson and a few others, should be had up for misconduct in public office.

Motheroffourdragons · 29/04/2019 09:03

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Violetparis · 29/04/2019 09:09

I don't think we need to go as far back as the Olympics in 2012 to find a poitive mood in the country. There was one last year around Gareth Southgate and the English football team in the European Football Championships.

woman19 · 29/04/2019 09:10

Re read - very misleading article! and I've not had coffee
You're in good company lonely.

@StevePeers
Confused and dubious reporting on the Spanish elections from the BBC.

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Motheroffourdragons · 29/04/2019 09:11

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colouringinpro · 29/04/2019 09:14

Terrified

1tisILeClerc · 29/04/2019 09:17

And in Iran a woman lawyer, whose 'crime' is to support women who have not worn their headscarves when in public, is due for 138 lashes and IIRC a jail sentence (I forget details it was on DM site but can't see it now), yet UK politicians are getting away with trashing the country.

Peregrina · 29/04/2019 09:22

At least with the Olympics we won a decent crop of medals. Although Gareth Southgate's boys 'done great', they didn't come first, second or third.

LonelyTiredandLow · 29/04/2019 09:24

@woman19 - I was noting that they aren't highlighting that the fascists are the minority but that they got in. All part of the fear mongering and EU are becoming fascist! alarmist message without any note that that is exactly what is taking place here.

LonelyTiredandLow · 29/04/2019 09:26

Sorry but football has very rarely united "the whole country"! I still don't fully understand why so much time every day is dedicated to it as "news". I've always seen it as part of the bread and circuses.

Violetparis · 29/04/2019 09:26

I never said that the European Championships reunited the country. From my experience in England it did create a positive mood. Obviously, it wasn't the whole of the UK and others may disagree.

lonelyplanetmum · 29/04/2019 09:29

Randomly I saw this on FB today.

When it came out originally I still felt hope - I thought good recordings like this may gather momentum and the message in it would come across.

Now somehow it feels more like a retrospective mourning, an obituary. Not sure why that is..

www.facebook.com/standup2brexit/videos/407900333278934?s=560285438&v=e&sfns=xmo

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lonelyplanetmum · 29/04/2019 09:36

It's the 101 reasons to stat video- definitely feelings more like a mourning.

What's the point in Labour being slightly more vocal about the environment? Ti start to address that we need to 1. keep the 8-11% Brexit is costing the economy and 2. belong to an international body that has made more environmental initiatives than any individual nation.

Violetparis · 29/04/2019 09:37

Motheroffourdragons thank you Smile

borntobequiet · 29/04/2019 09:38

I found the NHS Olympic extravaganza cringeworthy sorry

DGRossetti · 29/04/2019 09:39

Meanwhile the mood music continues, as I see rape victims will be required to hand over their phones to police. That'll deter any predators, clearly.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48086244

1tisILeClerc · 29/04/2019 09:42

lonelyplanetmum
I see what you mean about that little video.
I can't fathom why leave voters want to jeopardise all of that and more. We actually HAD these things, they aren't pie in the sky 'pledges' that the unicorn brigade have peddled.

Motheroffourdragons · 29/04/2019 09:43

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LonelyTiredandLow · 29/04/2019 09:49

DGR - re the rape, IMO you could almost argue that any man who has a history of watching porn on his phone could be a voyeur by extension, no? I do wonder if they take into account whether alleged attacker's phones have multiple hook up sites/porn/links to misogynistic apps too. I am guessing a woman just has to have sent a flirty text in the last year for her attack to be discredited.

1tisILeClerc · 29/04/2019 09:49

(What's the point in Labour being slightly more vocal about the environment?}
While efforts to maintain and improve the environment are of course very worthy, you have to consider that China is commissioning a new coal fired power station every few months. The UK population could switch everything off and all stay in bed and do absolutely nothing for a few days and it would hardly register in the global scheme of things.
A concerted effort to curb some of the biggest destroyers of the planet through cooperation is called for. Of course blowing stuff up and having to rebuild is a massive waste of resources as well.

LonelyTiredandLow · 29/04/2019 10:02

1tisILeClerc which is why collaboration with China and influencing their own use of renewable tech (considering they are the biggest producers of the manufacturing side) should be where we are heading. We/EU have the opportunity to lead by example here. Instead we are dropping out and becoming vulnerable economically and so any major changes like this become far less likely.

The only 2 parties I can imagine doing something huge for the environment with lasting effects are LD and Greens. Labour I fear talk the talk but actually are still aiming for 2050 which shows a lack of change of gear on the env front.

lonelyplanetmum · 29/04/2019 10:06

Yes it's just that everyone was talking about capturing the spirit of the Olympics. Good recordings like that should help capture the positive feeling that hosting the Olympics brought. But combining that spirit with a movement to use EU membership as a force for good is impossible here I think.

Somehow that very good little video makes me feel the hopelessness of it all.

I now feel deep inside that the snowball of Brexit rolling down Hill is unstoppable and it brings a Libertarian philosophy with it where a US approach to corporate freedom is King.

Articles like this shop how far down that path we are already. The people naively believe that decent state education and a free NHS are writ in stone. They are not. Reducing EU migration has justified shrinking NHS services by as much as 25%. That's a huge plus for the government.

The movements that Farage and JRM,Fox etc represent are like the UK branch of US libertarian thinking. All those voters flocking to support Farage are unknowingly endorsing a political philosophy that believes in removal of any right to health care or education from the state. It's all happening before our eyes and I feel it's unstoppable.

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