Westminstenders: Local Elections Madness

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This week has gone from banging your head against the wall to wanting to bang your head through it.

Labour have voted to support a 2nd ref as their EU election campaign strategy. Only for Corbyn to ignore it. And a row has broken out.

Change UK seem well on track to make everyone else look professional and to look as 'liberal elite' as humanly possible in a real life reverse paraody of themselves.

The Brexit Party is going from strength to strength with the most wtf candidates imaginable and Farage is happy cos his mate is coming to tea with the Queen.

The Liberal Democrats have decided that anti semitism is OK in an effort to keep Labour seats.

And the Conservatives. Where to start? Probably with the Tory Leadership Election infighting which looks suspiciously as if its now breached national security.

As for Brexit. No one really wants to talk about it. Local elections are next week. May is now apparently supporting the Malthouse Compromise. Be warned, it is difficult to see it as anything but a Trojan Horse for No Deal. Not that everyone has worked this out yet. But until we have the blood bath of the local elections over and done with on Thursday, don't expect much to happen.

Then expect the Tories to lose their minds...

More on Claire Fox's background here

bylinetimes.com/2019/04/24/fox-breaks-cover-from-revolutionary-communist-to-farages-right-hand-woman/

Yet again I am stating my agreement with bellini - No Deal is an idiotic way to go - I voted Leave with the expectation that it would take years and multi-layered negotiations in order to do so.

The WA starts that process - but no, Tory Remainer MPs, Tory ERGs, Labour MPs, DUP and SNP MPs prefer to create chaos than vote it through. And all because they have their own agendas.

Labour MPs being the worst culprits as all they want is to grasp power by overthrowing the Tories without another GE. Kate Hoey being the exception to the rule - being a London Labour MP too.

Given we have the biggest pro EU movement in the young the vote to Leave (if carried through) will be reversed in the future and it will have cost us the rebate & probably rejoining with the euro.

The more I find out about Claire Fox the worse it gets.

Joining the Euro has not been a genuine requirement for many years now, unless the countries concerned actually wish to do so
The Euro requirement is a dead letter, only there for show

e.g. Sweden joined the EU in 1995 and signing up to the Euro when it came in was part of their accession agreement .... they still haven't done so, 24 years later
The first step to do so would be to join ERM II and they haven't even done that

The Eurozone no longer wants unwilling members or countries which fudge the criteria - Greece taught them them to be very careful about accepting new Euro members
They now only want those who genuinely fulfill the joining criteria and also want to join

Hello! The leaflets for the local elections are arriving thick and fast. I’m still waiting for the paperwork to come through for DHs proxy vote (he’s away on business). Also still waiting for him to tell me who he wants to vote for.

We may see both major parties having to run campaigns without most of their activists 😂

Tory activists already staying home - or even defecting to BREX - because Brexit hasn't happened yet and its "purity" is threatened

Now Labour activists are warning they'll stay home unless Corbyn makes PV party policy

And of course, both parties have lost some donors and are skint, so need manpower now more than ever

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/28/labour-activists-threaten-european-election-campaign-boycott-second-referendum

"Leading Labour activists are warning Jeremy Corbyn that they could boycott the party’s campaign for the European elections unless it backs a confirmatory referendum on Brexit,
as pressure mounts on the leadership to support a fresh public vote."

That article on Claire Fox is chilling. Accepting $300k from the Charles Koch Foundation shows just how toxic it all is.

If anyone hadn't read the book Dark Money by Jane Meyer they should. It's meticulously well researched terrifying revelation of how a network of exceedingly wealthy US billionaires with extreme views systematically, step-by-step implemented a plan to fundamentally alter American politics. All the signs are here and It is terrifying that they are also now bankrolling Farage and his mates.

The book shows the drip drip drip way in which protections for citizens, employees, state institutions were deliberately decimated in the US.

It's shocking - a calculated agenda to fund huge 'charities' or organisations all slowly influencing and ultimately controlling academic institutions, think tanks and the courts and politicians.

It's not only Farage's Fox that wants to throw us to these wolves but Liam Fox wants to do so too.

Read the book and be very afraid.. www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/a-whistle-blower-accuses-the-kochs-of-poisoning-an-arkansas-town

Local elections I have Tory / Libdem / Labour / UKIP
If I was voting on local issues it would be Labour
but I will not be counted as somebody who supports a Pro Brexit party.
So on Thursday the Tories will lose a lot of seats, but so will Labour.

Nothing here yet about the Euros.

CF does the papers programme with Ian Dunt, I think. I don't have Sky so don't see it but I wonder if he'll start unpicking her a bit?

On the subject of Claire Fox, Otto English on twitter has done some threads about her support for the IRA that other sources don't seem to want to touch (she has rich backers and I am guessing that people are worried about a libel suit).

Oubliette there's a lot on here that don't care about the Local Elections as they aren't resident in the UK and can't vote in UK Local Elections.

They left our shores for pastures new and are only now concerned because their own lives might be affected, which is fair enough, but not when they shroud it concerns for the UK's future when all they really care about is themselves.

That's the article I linked to below, Misti.

Sorry Swedish, I'm on my phone with 55 year old eyes so I can't actually RTFT lol

Still no news on who is funding the Brexit party?

I'm going to have to spoil my ballot.

hate Most posters are in the UK

The possibly lower interest here about the local election is because BREX is not contesting them

• Farage can't organise 1000s of candidates & local campaigns in time, if at all.

So no chance of the far right winning the local elections

Anyway, these are the BREXIT threads, started when the referendum was called

They left our shores for pastures new and are only now concerned because their own lives might be affected, which is fair enough, but not when they shroud it concerns for the UK's future when all they really care about is themselves

That's a bit harsh! as you don't know everyone british citizen who has taken adv of FOM, you don't know their motivations.

They may have left the UK but that doesn't mean they don't care about their country of birth or have valid opinions of the direction the country is taking.
Many will have kids and grandchild still in the UK and care deeply about Great Britain.

Had brexit not happened, i'd now be in France, however, my motivation to stop brexit is because it is absolutely shit for the the UK, especially as it is being driven by the self serving Farage & Banks.

I'm going to have to spoil my ballot.

Then don't complain about the result.

I don't get this. Political purity is poisoning modern politics: sure there are things that you don't like about the Lib Dems or the Greens or the tiggers. But would you really prefer a Brexit party candidate in their place?

It's like Melenchon voters in France refusing to vote against a neo-fascist because they couldn't bring themselves to vote for a man who once worked for a Jewish-owned bank.

It makes me so fucking cross that people will allow fascism to spread because they can't dirty their hands voting for a candidate who is less than perfect.

I'm going to have to spoil my ballot

Might as well not bother voting, an utterly pointless gesture.

Mistigri You've made the point far better than my meagre effort

Why spoil ballot?

I think most of the parties are skint. The constant elections plus lost deposits have taken it out of them.

woman Farage in this interview say he received one very big donation - not Arron Banks -
plus 25 quid each from 70,000 supporters.

That's plenty for EP elections and the 70 GB seats, nowhere near enough for locals or GE
and he doesn't need so much of a party infrastructure for just 11 GB regions for MEPs

His party has "supporters," not members, because he doesn't want them voting on policy or party officials, especially not leader
This is the Farage party, where noone else is allowed a say - but authoritarians won't mind

www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/iain-dale/nigel-farage-brexit-party-funding/