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Westminstenders: Local Elections Madness

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RedToothBrush · 27/04/2019 22:37

This week has gone from banging your head against the wall to wanting to bang your head through it.

Labour have voted to support a 2nd ref as their EU election campaign strategy. Only for Corbyn to ignore it. And a row has broken out.

Change UK seem well on track to make everyone else look professional and to look as 'liberal elite' as humanly possible in a real life reverse paraody of themselves.

The Brexit Party is going from strength to strength with the most wtf candidates imaginable and Farage is happy cos his mate is coming to tea with the Queen.

The Liberal Democrats have decided that anti semitism is OK in an effort to keep Labour seats.

And the Conservatives. Where to start? Probably with the Tory Leadership Election infighting which looks suspiciously as if its now breached national security.

As for Brexit. No one really wants to talk about it. Local elections are next week. May is now apparently supporting the Malthouse Compromise. Be warned, it is difficult to see it as anything but a Trojan Horse for No Deal. Not that everyone has worked this out yet. But until we have the blood bath of the local elections over and done with on Thursday, don't expect much to happen.

Then expect the Tories to lose their minds...

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jasjas1973 · 01/05/2019 21:22

Hearing the name Mordant always makes me think of a villain

Fixed that for you.

woman19 · 01/05/2019 21:22

This climate emergency thing is weird too: Transference.

@josephmdurso
🎶Oh Jeremy Corbyn on Parliament Square
(Corbyn is addressing Extinction Rebellion protestors)

twitter.com/josephmdurso/status/1123656850585550849?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

The sight of that anti semitic old brexist and gove competing for youngsters' votes, was plain creepy.

The kids' voices echoing round Parliament Square are tragic.

BigChocFrenzy · 01/05/2019 21:26

Impacts through absence? How might the Brexit Party and Change UK influence the local elections from afar tomorrow?

I'd expect Brexiters to either (re)turn to UKIP for the locals, or stay home

britainelects.com/2019/04/30/how-might-hardcore-leaveremain-voters-impact-this-years-local-elections/

BigChocFrenzy · 01/05/2019 21:30

woman I was also wondering if the sudden frantic interest from Gove and other Uk establishment figures to discuss environmental catastrophe is just a displacement activity

and it's really the Brexit catastrophe that is terrifying them.
But they dare not say

BigChocFrenzy · 01/05/2019 21:43

London:_ Tories slump to fourth place behind Labour, Nigel Farage and Change UK in new Euro elections poll_

And only just ahead of LDems & Greens - Cons could even end up 5th or 6th !
Chuckers doing better in London than elsewhere

YouGov

LAB 28%
BREX 19%
CHUK 17%
CON 11%
LDEM 10%
GRN 10%

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/tories-slump-to-fourth-place-behind-labour-nigel-farage-and-change-uk-in-new-euro-elections-poll-a4130211.html

woman19 · 01/05/2019 21:43

just a displacement activity
It so is, BCF. However there's a real, vibrant and massive ecology youth demographic, (they've just removed FOM and Human Rights from) they're flailing after.

Has anyone mentioned our new new Secretary of State for Defence once told us that the UK had no veto on Turkey’s membership?

@davidallengreen
A wiser Opposition would also call for an inquiry into the underlying Huawei infrastructure decision.

(But magic grandad is busy being serenaded by trusting children. )

bellinisurge · 01/05/2019 21:44

Is the Defence Secretary job like Defence Against the Dark Arts teaching job in Harry Potter - cursed?Grin

RedToothBrush · 01/05/2019 21:49

Ahead of tomorrow here's one pundits prediction for the locals.

Election Maps UK @ electionmapsuk
My Personal #LE2019 Predictions (GB):

LDM: +450
LAB: +300
GRN: +25
CON: -700
UKIP: -125
Others: +50

2 days time and we'll know if I'm right (or disastrously wrong).

I think -700 would be considered a good result by the Tories if some estimates are to be believed!!!

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BigChocFrenzy · 01/05/2019 21:52

I've been hearing 800-1000 loss for the Tories, with meltdown in London at least, as just posted

so 700 would be a "good" result Grin
Who's talking up / talking down ?

BigChocFrenzy · 01/05/2019 21:53

UKIP could do better than expected, with Brexiters disgusted by Tories

RedToothBrush · 01/05/2019 21:57

Election Maps UK @ electionmapuk
it's #LE2019 week!

Here's what would be a good/bad result for each party in my opinion:

CON
Good = -300
Bad = -1000

LAB
Good = +300
Bad = +100

LDM
Good = +500
Bad = +200

UKIP
Good = -50
Bad = -150

GRN
Good = +50
Bad = -1

Pippa Crerar @pippacrerar
NEW: @georgegalloway tells me that he has approached @Nigel_Farage directly to say he wants to stand in Peterborough by-election for his Brexit Party. But if not selected, he could stand as an independent.

George fucking Galloway. Just what this country needs.

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Iambuffy · 01/05/2019 21:57

When will first results be in?

1tisILeClerc · 01/05/2019 21:58

{Is the Defence Secretary job like Defence Against the Dark Arts teaching job in Harry Potter}
Well since the UK is heading towards being a global island and seeing the complete farcical shitshow that the UK government are putting on, will anyone else want to be involved? So the New secretary can command a 'Dads Army' home guard to keep out immigrants on rubber boats.
I was quite moved by a documentary on the aftermath of WW2 where both British and German fighter pilots said they had admiration and respect for their opposite numbers with the obvious sadness that they were bound to participate by opposing government/leaders.

RedToothBrush · 01/05/2019 22:08

Some councils will count tomorrow night, but typically for local elections they don't start many until Friday. It's cheaper and more accurate (as people aren't tired)

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TalkinPaece · 01/05/2019 22:10

I work in 11 districts, of which 9 have elections tomorrow
most are counting district tomorrow night
the unitaries are counting tomorrow night
but all of the parishes are being held over to the morning
but there is no rush
as the clerks will not be sending out the agendas till Tuesday

BigChocFrenzy · 01/05/2019 22:11

As the last local elections were very good for the Tories - so they are defending far more seats than anyone else -
and they are in total meltdown atm,

I expect they'd be relieved at -700 or anything better
-600 would be a good result for them

May will be further weakened though and by the EPs

Peregrina · 01/05/2019 22:12

In Oxfordshire we are doing the District counts overnight, and then starting the Town/Parish counts at noon on Friday.

Ellie56 · 01/05/2019 22:30

Imagine being so shit you get fired by Theresa May Grin

But it does seem odd that he is protesting so much.

woman19 · 01/05/2019 22:43

James O Brien dedicated much of his programme to Corbyn's latest anti semitic revelations today, it's worth a listen.

I'd given Corbyn benefit of the doubt on his anti semitism until a while back. Now it appears to be deeply sinister and worse, it seems deliberate.

The best that can be said is that he is so dim he probably doesn’t even realise it, but that may be too generous

Now I am not so sure even about that. Yes, we have reached a tipping point. The foreword he wrote, only a few years ago, to Imperialism: A Study by JA Hobson (first published in 1902) endorsing this “great tome” is as damaging as any of the rest of the revelations that have emerged because it endorses this old trope about the international conspiracy

The relevant passage in Hobson’s critique of imperialism, one that inspired Lenin, concerns the “pressures” that drove the British and others to acquire their colonies and subjugate their peoples, the forces of international capitalism, controlled “by men of a single and peculiar race, who have behind them many centuries of financial experience … in a unique position to control the policy of nations

www.independent.co.uk/voices/corbyn-antisemitism-labour-ja-hobson-imperalism-book-jewish-a8894481.html

This book was written at the same time as pogroms were forcing a lot of Jews out of the Russia and Eastern Europe, and a couple of decades before Nazism got going.

Many many decades before the current state of Israel came into existence.

Corbyn, sadly, is not a good man.

Songsofexperience · 01/05/2019 22:58

Hearing the name Mordant always makes me think of a villain

Mordant in French literally means biting

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NoWordForFluffy · 01/05/2019 23:16

You should still be on the list at the polling station and you don't (or didn't, has it changed?) need the card to vote.

How recently did you move, could you have to go to your old polling station as you'll be on that list?

RHTawneyonabus · 01/05/2019 23:23

motherofdragons you don’t need your poll card you could just go along to your polling station tomorrow and see if you are on the list.

HesterThrale · 01/05/2019 23:39

Well, if we’re getting into the mood for ridding ourselves of MPs with recall petitions, here’s another one:

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-wales-politics-48038005

RedToothBrush · 01/05/2019 23:47

You can vote if you have moved after the last registration date but before the election. You don't need your polling card. You use your old address at your old polling station.

I'd link to the details but I can't for the life of me find it.

I've had a look into it as I'm likely to be in that position for the European elections. (It looking likely to be week of the election - hopefully just waiting on the move date now). So it's definitely correct information.

The catch is for anyone who has moved a long way and can't get back to your old polling station.

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