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Westminstenders: Local Elections Madness

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RedToothBrush · 27/04/2019 22:37

This week has gone from banging your head against the wall to wanting to bang your head through it.

Labour have voted to support a 2nd ref as their EU election campaign strategy. Only for Corbyn to ignore it. And a row has broken out.

Change UK seem well on track to make everyone else look professional and to look as 'liberal elite' as humanly possible in a real life reverse paraody of themselves.

The Brexit Party is going from strength to strength with the most wtf candidates imaginable and Farage is happy cos his mate is coming to tea with the Queen.

The Liberal Democrats have decided that anti semitism is OK in an effort to keep Labour seats.

And the Conservatives. Where to start? Probably with the Tory Leadership Election infighting which looks suspiciously as if its now breached national security.

As for Brexit. No one really wants to talk about it. Local elections are next week. May is now apparently supporting the Malthouse Compromise. Be warned, it is difficult to see it as anything but a Trojan Horse for No Deal. Not that everyone has worked this out yet. But until we have the blood bath of the local elections over and done with on Thursday, don't expect much to happen.

Then expect the Tories to lose their minds...

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DGRossetti · 01/05/2019 16:01

Anyone heard of Jungs "library angel" ?

Trawling the interwebs for a technical hint (about Linux hardlinks and the merits of rsync vs. tar ...) I read a post which had as it's sig:

Naturally the common people don't want war... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country. - Hermann Goering, Nazi and war criminal, 1883-1946

Hasenstein · 01/05/2019 16:03

It's that cheese that follows you around at parties

You obviously attend some odd parties, DGR

Is it a Birmingham thing?

DGRossetti · 01/05/2019 16:03

No tory posters, or ukips in usual sites, but Lib Dem and Labour posters up.

The "shy Tory" effect ?

1tisILeClerc · 01/05/2019 16:08

{about Linux hardlinks and the merits of rsync vs. tar }

If that is your sort of material are you sure that letting you out 1 day a week isn't excessive DGR?

TalkinPaece · 01/05/2019 16:08

DO NOT Plan to stay up for the results
As the electoral services teams are not Grin
A lot of the counts are happening on Friday starting at 9am to save money.

Peregrina · 01/05/2019 16:13

Lots of LibDem posters up here, but it's the crosses in the boxes which count.

Am expecting to go to the Count. Verification first, then all night District counts, and then we start again at noon on Friday for the Town counts, which I might not bother with. I might be too shattered by then.Telling tomorrow also - democracy in action hey?

Have also bored the family explaining the d'Hondt system.

DGRossetti · 01/05/2019 16:14

A lot of the counts are happening on Friday starting at 9am to save money.

Is it Debenhams or the UK that's closing down ?

DGRossetti · 01/05/2019 16:15

If that is your sort of material are you sure that letting you out 1 day a week isn't excessive DGR?

Trust me, nobody gets that deep into filesystems for fun. Anyway, it's a pet project to keep the currently idling cv fresh.

LonelyTiredandLow · 01/05/2019 16:18

Aha! I have a reply from my pro-remain Labour MP:

Thank you for contacting me recently about Labour party policy on Brexit.

I share your concern at the way our withdrawal from the EU has been handled. As we are now faced with the Prime Minister's deeply flawed deal and the prospect of a disastrous No Deal, I believe a public vote is an option to prevent a damaging form of Brexit being forced on our country.

I have been calling on the Government to adopt a credible alternative Brexit plan that I believe puts jobs and living standards first. Regrettably, the Government continues to oppose this alternative.

I will continue to support credible options to break the Brexit deadlock and prevent No Deal, including supporting amendments for a public vote.

woman19 · 01/05/2019 16:20

it's the crosses in the boxes which count
And getting people registerd to vote. Our local group is encouraging people to register, but 8million missing voters could make all the difference. Shock
Here's another registration tool.
getvoting.org/

TalkinPaece · 01/05/2019 16:20

DGR
Councils know that they will have to use the electoral teams again in a few weeks so do not want to dispirit them more than normal

TalkinPaece · 01/05/2019 16:23

Where is the actual analysis for this 7.9m figure?
How many are EU citizens voting elsewhere?
How many are students registered elsewhere?

TheMShip · 01/05/2019 16:28

DGR rsync is my friend Grin

1tisILeClerc · 01/05/2019 16:28

{I have been calling on the Government to adopt a credible alternative Brexit plan that I believe puts jobs and living standards first. Regrettably, the Government continues to oppose this alternative.}

And there in a nutshell is the problem. An MP who does not understand that the WA is NOT a deal, and more importantly it HAS to be signed.

DGRossetti · 01/05/2019 16:28

In other news, DS is moving into a house-share on Saturday (Dad .... can you help me move my shit, please ? Grin). Crafty bugger has managed to reduce rent from his single flat in the process. Seems to have vindicated his decision (boy, can he be pig-headed) to avoid University (breaks my heart) as he's debt free, earning way more than anyone who was at school with him, and knows what £1,000,000 weighs.

What the fuck happened to this country ?

1tisILeClerc · 01/05/2019 16:30

TheMShip
Please can you and DGR take your weird perversion into a quiet corner somewhere, the rest of us have a crisis to panic over!

LonelyTiredandLow · 01/05/2019 16:33

Also just had a hand delivered LD flyer "We need your help TOMORROW" - nice reminder there as it all does seem rather quiet here. Of note two Labour signs usually in windows en-route to the hospital are notably absent. LD flyer opens to proclaim
It's a two horse race.

Only the LD can beat Labour in xx ward. The Conservative vote is collapsing everywhere.

The local Labour Party is bitterly divided. Their leadership has been taken over by the hard left, alienating moderate voters.

Which is interesting considering Labour MP talked about the govt approach to Brexit and ignored her own party, which was what I had emailed her about.

DGRossetti · 01/05/2019 16:34

rsync is my friend

Well, you'd think so. But it seems to struggle with hardlinks which are the basis of the filesystem I want to move. And I'm wary about trashing another disk. (Although given the total failure of the 5-eyes grade tools I've tried to recover it, I might have a new product I could sell Grin).

Luckily I found a bargain basement outfit that will host 5TB for £50/year, so can be a little more cavalier about things than usual ...

(as you were ....)

LonelyTiredandLow · 01/05/2019 16:35

1tisILeClerc - yes, complete misunderstanding of WA and the smell of deflection irked me also.

DGRossetti · 01/05/2019 16:38

And there in a nutshell is the problem. An MP who does not understand that the WA is NOT a deal, and more importantly it HAS to be signed.

Do they really not understand, or is that voter-speak (or written by someone in the constituency office ?

DGRossetti · 01/05/2019 16:40

Watching the BBC live feed just pop up about Brexit:

None of us are going to get what we want.

Which as an admission should be immediately followed by: WHY BOTHER THEN ????????!!!!!!!!

Peregrina · 01/05/2019 16:45

WHY BOTHER THEN ????????!!!!!!!!

Indeed. Then ask those who feel strongly to go away and do the research. Proper research based on known facts and facts which have reasonable estimates attached. E.g. it took Greenland 3 years with a 50,000 population, one major industry and negotiating with 9 others only not 27, so we could use that as a baseline. 10 years for trade deals seems about the norm, so we can expect that to happen.

1tisILeClerc · 01/05/2019 16:45

On the basis that Mr Junker and the whole EU negotiating team have said (helpfully in English) that the WA will not be reopened, and that they will not commence any trade deals until it is signed, my money is on them.
I so want this to be over so I can abandon MN and ride off into the sunset. It should please you lot too (that I do this).

Peregrina · 01/05/2019 16:47

I don't want to abandon MN. I will miss these threads when it's all over!
When will that be though?

DGRossetti · 01/05/2019 16:49

I so want this to be over so I can abandon MN and ride off into the sunset.

Just for the lolz, we could all pledge to meet up for the mother of all piss-ups if Revoke happens ? I'm talking vomiting across the Thames level of inebriation.

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