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Westminstenders: Local Elections Madness

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RedToothBrush · 27/04/2019 22:37

This week has gone from banging your head against the wall to wanting to bang your head through it.

Labour have voted to support a 2nd ref as their EU election campaign strategy. Only for Corbyn to ignore it. And a row has broken out.

Change UK seem well on track to make everyone else look professional and to look as 'liberal elite' as humanly possible in a real life reverse paraody of themselves.

The Brexit Party is going from strength to strength with the most wtf candidates imaginable and Farage is happy cos his mate is coming to tea with the Queen.

The Liberal Democrats have decided that anti semitism is OK in an effort to keep Labour seats.

And the Conservatives. Where to start? Probably with the Tory Leadership Election infighting which looks suspiciously as if its now breached national security.

As for Brexit. No one really wants to talk about it. Local elections are next week. May is now apparently supporting the Malthouse Compromise. Be warned, it is difficult to see it as anything but a Trojan Horse for No Deal. Not that everyone has worked this out yet. But until we have the blood bath of the local elections over and done with on Thursday, don't expect much to happen.

Then expect the Tories to lose their minds...

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OublietteBravo · 30/04/2019 19:46

Be VERY CAREFUL of anybody who says they are Independent
I know of UKIP, BNP and other unsavoury types who are hiding their true affiliation

^^This. Our “independent” candidate formerly stood for the English Democrats. Nope. Not getting my vote.

Dontlickthetrolley · 30/04/2019 19:48

I think that's unfair @Peregrina

We have 2 independents who were Tory but refused to follow the Tory whip in the local council and were kicked out because they were asking to vote for things that they knew their wards were completely against so put public before party. The town down the road managed to kick out all the Tories and the independent group hold about 60% of the town council.

TalkinPaece · 30/04/2019 19:53

Don'tlick
Studying Councillor allegiances is my day job
at District and county level, Independents VERY rarely are.

Peregrina · 30/04/2019 19:53

I was just speaking how I found. My experience of Independents is that they always vote with the Tories.

frumpety · 30/04/2019 19:55

What I am still struggling to work out in my little Brexit isn't going to happen fantasy land (it really isn't, you know) is who is going to be the party or person to tell the masses. I think the Conservatives will get away with it more than Labour, I mean Boris could pop up at the right moment and flick his newly grown back hair and tell the country he dropped a bollock, that actually on consideration in is always better than out , snigger, snigger, guffaw !

TalkinPaece · 30/04/2019 19:58

Re independent council candidates....
Google them with their name in inverted commas and the name of your county
their past will pop up pretty quick

A council near me has a group pf independent councillors who are somewhat to the left of Trotsky

Peregrina · 30/04/2019 20:02

A agree Boris is the the only one who could say that Brexit is cancelled, what ho, chaps!

Littlespaces · 30/04/2019 20:16

I know of UKIP, BNP and other unsavoury types who are hiding their true affiliation

Thanks Talkin. Off to google. I'll let you know.....

Littlespaces · 30/04/2019 20:24

Seems she is a Parish Council Chair with an interest in faeces :)

tobee · 30/04/2019 20:51

Sounds like an ideal fit to go into politics.

DGRossetti · 30/04/2019 21:29

and ...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48113303

QueenOfThorns · 30/04/2019 21:29

Sooooo, my EP polling card has appeared today, but DH’s mysteriously hasn’t. He sent the registration form off at least 2 weeks ago, so I’m a bit concerned. Do you think perhaps the EU citizens are on a separate list so might be sent out separately? Is there any way of checking online whether they got his form?

OhYouBadBadKitten · 30/04/2019 21:48

I nearly stood as an Independent, not because of falling out with any party but because I hated the idea of being whipped to vote a particular way when I have my own mind.
I still have the rosettes I'd ordered.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 30/04/2019 21:48

This was ages ago btw.

HazardGhost · 30/04/2019 21:59

Thanks for the Flowers this morning. Sorry just catching up.

colouringinpro hope the a&e visit went ok and he was seen quickly. I'm so sorry your family are going through similar it really isn't fair, decent or even logical. 💐
God knows what will be left standing after brexit. The latest reason why DP can't have a treatment wasnt just because of cost but space and staffing numbers in the hospitals as well.

iambuffy the hrt thing is a great example of the current stupidity. oh it's just a bit of hrt it doesn't matter its not as if its life saving but people forget our body parts and systems impact and influence on other body parts and systems continuously. I'm sorry your being affected it makes me really Angry . You are important and your quality of life matters...and avoiding hospital dashes situations is really a good idea on every level. People be twats.

Sostenueto · 30/04/2019 22:06

HazardFlowers for both you and your DP.

I now have both polling cards. I will now have to think who I'm voting for. No canvassers at all in my area. So perhaps my vote doesn't matter ( sigh).

DGD progressing very slowly. Awaiting results of tests. Wishing my little family didn't have to keep lurching from one crisis to another. I seem to be really wore out these last weeks or so with worry and stress and sheer tiredness. Never mind, I will give myself a good kick up backside and just get on with it only I haven't got the energy.Sad

LonelyTiredandLow · 30/04/2019 22:09

Just in case we still value the UN's opinion on Brexit...

Iambuffy · 30/04/2019 22:12

Glad she's improving sos

hazard thank you. I'm so pissed off about it. Where is the common sense!?

Sostenueto · 30/04/2019 22:25

LambuffyFlowers for you too. Even we are having trouble with dgds treatment. She is attached to cancer unit because she has blood disorder and at 17 too old for children's ward and obviously they concentrate more on cancer patients who are all mainly on chemo or palliative care.
I'm just keeping fingers crossed bone marrow doesn't show cancer.Sad

Sostenueto · 30/04/2019 22:28

That wasn't a complaint just how it should be. I didn't have my treatment at this unit simply because I chose to go elsewhere where they knew me over the years.

prettybird · 30/04/2019 22:29

Flowers to those suffering from prescription shortages and an NHS starved of investment Sad

The consequences of inadequate or unavailable medication made me muse that that is one of the arguments for "free" prescriptions in Scotland and Wales: that in the longer term, it actually saves money Shock

Not only do you save on the money required to check whether or not those that are eligible for free prescriptions actually are, but more importantly, people actually fill their prescriptions and don't put it off and end up presenting with something more serious later. My best friend, a GP in Wales, was ambivalent at first as she thought it would be abused. She is a convert now as she says that they are able to manage the medication prescribed better - either more or less as appropriate. She said it made GPs jobs easier and actually reduced hospital admissions.

It's about understanding the value of things/services and not just the price of them Hmm

Something that some people mostly Leavers and Brexiter MPs seem to have forgotten in the debate about what the EU contributes to our society.

Littlespaces · 30/04/2019 22:37

It all seems so weird. Pensioners and more deprived voters will lose out the most if the NHS sinks.

yolofish · 30/04/2019 22:47

sos hazard and others Flowers.

We have our own little microcosm: dd1 needs a particular nasal spray to sort recurrent ear problems, prescribed by ENT consultant before hearing/ear pressure tests. Spray no longer manufactured, according to 4 diff pharmacies. Asked GP 2 weeks ago to precribe alternative - silence. DH has stage 3 rectal cancer, diagnosed early October 2018. Treatment (radio and chemo) did not start until Feb 2019. Now, 6 weeks post treatment he needs CT and MRI scans. CT took place today - great; but MRI which was due tomorrow cannot happen because machine is broken. No idea when it will be fixed, so that puts his results going forward to MDT meeting by at least a week if not more.

Sorry, off topic; but if I could vote for a Remain party which might actually make the NHS work a bit better then I would.

BigChocFrenzy · 30/04/2019 22:49

Exactly, pretty
Free prescriptions may well be cost-effective longterm .....
although the Scottish govt may be thinking like that, Westminster doesn't think beyond the current financial year

I don't know how to put a price on reducing human suffering