Westminstenders: 1001 Ways to wait for EUCO - Sprouts, Nits and Brexit

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Not much more to say other than, all we can do is wait to hear our fate.

Which seems to lie in the hands of Macron.

I think these tweet sums a lot of it up from a couple of jaded soft leavers

Iain Martin @ iainmartin1
This terrible farce in Brussels tonight is like being British during the eurovision song contest. British entrant awaits fate, watching humiliating results come in, trying to smile for the audience back home.

George Trefgarne @georgetrefgarne
To be honest I think Buck’s Fizz and Cheryl thingummy would have made a better job of it

My advice: Don't wait up!

Pippa Crerar @pippacrerar
EU source on Macron: "He is in a bit of a schizophrenic situation - (his) domestic audience demands that he is tough on Britain for historic reasons. On the other hand, France is among the most-hit in any no-deal Brexit. It will take hours before we pull him down from his tree."

So Macron may end up being the one who gets the UK what it wants but is doing it to be tough on us. I'm not sure I understand EU politics.

Well Cambridge Analytica have work to do

ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/news-and-events/news-and-blogs/2019/04/bounty-uk-fined-400-000-for-sharing-personal-data-unlawfully/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=iconews&utm_term=0b316063-3b70-456c-b573-9d763a1aec69&utm_content=&utm_campaign=
Bounty fined over illegally sharing the data of 14 million people (that's women and children)

On a personal level this company have long been in my sights as 'really bad fuckers'.

Scary shit that it's only just now coming to light.

I'm on the electoral roll and have my polling card for local elections....
Do I have to register again to vote in Euro elections? I didn't think so, but there's stuff on Twitter saying you do have to register again for that!?!

Gosh Red that campaign has been going for years (embarrassed to say I thought it had concluded about 2 years ago ) but that is a paltry amount! One thing I've deffo realised in all of this is how minute the deterrent fines are in comparison to the millions/billions of profits. That seems to be across the board. Any party looking to redress that balance would get serious consideration.

No, once you're on the electoral roll you're on it for every election.

You don't need to register again. In fact I think it's illegal NOT to be on the electoral roll.

It's under the only data protection laws £500000 was the maximum fine (which is what FB got).

I think it was 100% looking to validate her premiership especially with the ERG agitating away. Also maybe to give a full term on a new manifesto to get Brexit through- time that was largely squandered.

The problem with that as a theory, is that why did she leave it a year ? And deny it previously ?

I've always had a sense that if a replacement PM "went to the public" they would get a lot of people voting for them (via their party) out of a "give them a chance" motive. I base that on the fact that had Major done it, I would have voted Tory, and had Brown done it, I would have voted Labour. If nothing else out of grudging respect for doing it voluntarily.

There's no reason to think that had TM called an election as soon as was seemly, she would not have lost her majority. In hindsight (!) she lost her majority because the closeness of that fucking referendum meant a lot of people switched from a Tory party promising Brexit to (unfortunately) a Labour party promising Brexit.

NigellasGuest
If you are a EU citizen (excluding Irish & UK citizens) and you are still on the electoral role in addition you have to do the following for the upcoming EU Parliament elections.
Download and fill in the European Parliament voter registration form.
www.yourvotematters.co.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/255197/EU-citizen-European-Parliament-voter-registration-form-English.pdf
Step 3: Send the form to your local Electoral Registration Office by 7 May.
www.gov.uk/elections-in-the-uk/european-parliament …
@the3million
Maybe this is where the register again confusion comes from.

One thing I've deffo realised in all of this is how minute the deterrent fines are in comparison to the millions/billions of profits.

Until the victims get some compensation, I assert that data protection in the UK is a joke.

Anyone catch the story of a TV production company at a maternity clinic that pissed all over it's patients privacy ?

www.theregister.co.uk/2019/04/10/telly_production_biz_sets_up_cams_in_maternity_clinic_doesnt_tell_patients_gets_120k_fine/

Total paid to victims: £0.00

Feel free to tell me how wrong I am.

(There's also a thread on AIBU about a shocking data breach requiring rehousing if people want more proof that data protection in the UK is a joke. Moreover a joke the government is complicit in )

I can see that turnout might be low for the euro elections then, because how many people know you need to fill in another form in order to vote in them?
Thank you for the information.

The problem with that as a theory, is that why did she leave it a year ? And deny it previously ?

Perhaps because she thought she could handle the ERG better than Cameron and then realised she couldn't.She called the election nine months in did't she? There was also a crescendo of muttering about her being unelected which took a while to build.

The next scheduled election would have been in 2020 and so she'd have only had a year from now (if we'd left on schedule) to show the trade deals flooding in.Ha ha.

So I think she thought that extending that to 2022 would give time for it to start to look better.As if. Also some of the polls were showing a massive Tory lead when she called the election and she knew that lead could only deteriorate.
By the time she called the election she'd had enough months to realise the ERG were more uncontrollable and hostile than she'd realised and she thought that due to the polls she may get a bigger majority to help her control them.
It always boils down to the ERG- any more news of them splitting, fading, destroying each other?

Mother - this might help, from the RSPB: www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/wildlife-guides/birdwatching/bird-behaviour/birds-and-windows/

DGR the irony is I think TM called the GE to neuter the ERG. Without them and the DUP (or rather with a 100+ majority of not them) she could have pushed through BRINO, convinced Tories / UKIP we had actually left and accused Labour of obstructing the Referendum. Cameron's 2015 majority would imho have forced a Hard Brexit as it would be enough to pin all the blame for non-delivery on the Tories but not enough to disregard the ERG who had, after all, just won a Referendum.

What threw the spanner in the works was her complete failure on the domestic agenda juxtaposed with popular Labour policies and a suitable degree of ambiguity from Labour. (People writing off JC and his strategy atm should bear this in mind)

DH and I were discussing this the other day. The 2017 Election inadvertently made the WA and BRINO undeliverable. Since this is the least preferred option of Leavers / Remainers alike it actually
gave the right answer.

Family Birthday in our HH today so washing machine is having a day off. We have another birthday on Hallowe'en so seems we are uniquely attuned to Brexit Day.

Jacob Rees-Mogg’s sister Annunziata is one of
@brexitparty_uk’s candidates for the European elections

That's a good thing-she could encourage her bro to join the Brexit party.

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Complaint against Telegraph Boris Johnson Brexit opinion piece, which inaccurately reported polls on support for no deal, upheld.

Good.
And look at the Telegraph's justification.

Agreed lonely. As a previous Remainer she needed her own mandate to legitimise BRINO.

Seeing this about Annunziata Rees-Mogg reminds me of when David Cameron tried to get her to call herself Nancy Mogg so she could sound "more common" as a Tory candidate in 2010. She refused to do so.

And in hindsight, I really don't see why she felt the need to call the election ????

Because she believed the opinion polls and saw a wonderful chance to stick it to Labour.

For the EU elections needing to fill in another form, that is only other EU citizens, who will have a choice of which country to vote in. Citizens of Malta or Cyprus don't need to either, because they are Commonwealth citizens also (and hence could vote in the Referendum!)

Hmmm I'm still not sure about her allegiance to BRINO. Her aversion to foreigners makes me suspicious of what plan she had in mind at the outset, but definitely she wanted to take advantage of her perceived lead in the polls.Definitely she wanted to buy more time for whatever she thought would have happened in March 2019 and possibly give her more majority over her own back-benchers. Which is why the tories need to split.

And look at the Telegraph's justification.

Amazing. It’s the “remoaners just can’t take a joke” defence.

Seeing this about Annunziata Rees-Mogg reminds me of when David Cameron tried to get her to call herself Nancy Mogg so she could sound "more common" as a Tory candidate in 2010

Oh that Dave, he's a one isn't he.