Westminstenders: 1001 Ways to wait for EUCO - Sprouts, Nits and Brexit

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Not much more to say other than, all we can do is wait to hear our fate.

Which seems to lie in the hands of Macron.

I think these tweet sums a lot of it up from a couple of jaded soft leavers

Iain Martin @ iainmartin1
This terrible farce in Brussels tonight is like being British during the eurovision song contest. British entrant awaits fate, watching humiliating results come in, trying to smile for the audience back home.

George Trefgarne @georgetrefgarne
To be honest I think Buck’s Fizz and Cheryl thingummy would have made a better job of it

My advice: Don't wait up!

Pippa Crerar @pippacrerar
EU source on Macron: "He is in a bit of a schizophrenic situation - (his) domestic audience demands that he is tough on Britain for historic reasons. On the other hand, France is among the most-hit in any no-deal Brexit. It will take hours before we pull him down from his tree."

So Macron may end up being the one who gets the UK what it wants but is doing it to be tough on us. I'm not sure I understand EU politics.

I am a latecomer to the Westminstenders' threads but am loving them for the depth of political knowledge and the side chats.

Love Shakespeare, loathe Dickens & will admit to never having read any Jane Austen.

I read CFC with a Mumsnet interpretation..oh dear.
My day was considerably brightened this morning when I saw the rather lovely new hanging baskets outside the local Wetherspoons, in a lovely colour scheme of blue and yellow...

The DUP and BoJo Now that's a match made in hell!

The DUP seem so illogical in their thinking so this wouldn't even surprise me... desperate to protect 'the union' yet want a hard Brexit..good luck with that Arlene!

I actually think it's hilarious that he is tying his party name to the albatross of Brexit.

I feel he isn't looking very far ahead into the future. Mind you he does strike me as someone who doesn't see things through - all that leaving and rejoining UKIP, taking over then retiring. It was easy when the EU wasn't centre stage as he would just ride on the shirt tails.

Oh and one of the advantages of the side chats is that we get used to talking to real people. Consequently, when an "interloper" arrives, they are pretty easy to spot.

Happy Not Brexit Day! ( seems to come around quicker each fortnight )

groovie I really liked your post at 5.18

Thread on creating Remain alliance tickets for EU elections.
Corbyn appears to have blown it, so...........
twitter.com/Sheardyweirdy/status/1116245423709196288

I'm hoping local PV groups will be keeping an eye on this. Many of the liberal members seem to have a good handle on strategising in local and national elections.

Then after Easter Egg time, it'll be canvassing and getting the vote out.

Of course JC could decide he wants to win an election and come out Remain, but the car crash/odd handling of the Assange arrest suggest this is an impossibility.

SNP gain from Labour in Edinburgh council by-election.

What's interesting is not just the way that the Labour and Conservative votes have gone down but also, because iirc the way that the STV system vote works, the fact that the "other" (including Conservative ) votes didn't transfer to Labour in order for it to get the win.

Notable that all the pro-EU parties increased their votes. Caveat: I do recognise that a) by-elections don't have big turnouts and b) it may well have been fought on local issues.

I've been silent through the side-chats but I like them.

I'm a bit of a Dickens freak but freely admit he was a massively flawed man of huge contradictions - driven by his experiences of childhood insecurity (debtor father, ineffectual mother whom he blamed for sending him to work in a blacking factory aged 12). He idealised women in his books yet behaved abominably to his wife when casting her off for a younger model. But was a genuinely crusading spirit on behalf of the poor, as a pp pointed out.

And yet, and yet....Our Mutual Friend is a great book. Best adaptation: BBC version in the mid-70s with a lot of unlikely people in it: Jane Seymour, Leo McKern, Alfie Bass, Warren Clarke.

Diversion 🔚

borntobequiet - good point about making us more "real" . The bots hate it Messes with their programmes

Good morning and happy not brexit day!

Alas my stress/anxiety is still high but I hope those who were having nightmares have slept peacefully.

Very encouraging, prettybird I wish Nicola would lead a Remain alliance for whole of UK.

@ByDonkeys
Big day ahead for @Nigel_Farage and his new Brexit Party as he launches his European election campaign. Shame he forgot to register the website.

Sadly for the ukips I see Yaxley Lennon became too tired and emotional to attend a press conference in Prague earlier this week.

I was once in furrinland for a year and my stash of novels (pre kindle days by many years) dried up pretty soon. Great Expectations from the nearest library in English saw me through some dark evenings.

Get out and vote everyone!

Look forward to many more Not Brexit Days to come.

It is clear that the only purpose of the May-Corbyn talks is so she can say to the EU she is talking to him. Any changes to the PD are a future commitment her sucessor could trash, and so are worthless.

BBC Flow-Chart is very good:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46393399

Get out and vote everyone
www.gov.uk/register-to-vote

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I'm grateful for the Easter recess, perhaps it might help MPs to get away from the HoC for awhile and blow the cobwebs away. I'm sure they're exhausted with the topic, just like us.

That's a good flow diagram, Mockers. If you want a truly mind-blowing one (and have had several Weetabix) then you could look at this one:

jonworth.eu/brexit-where-now-the-flow-diagrams/

I've just registered, woman, I am looking forward to casting my vote!

Dh has just shown me this cartoon

We had Labour local elex canvassers knocking on the door yesterday evening (good timing). When I mentioned the B-word he bloke asked me, slightly nervously, what I thought. I said we should stay in. He visibly relaxed and said he thought so too, but that 'working out what Jeremy thinks' wasn't so easy (ha). Told me that 60 - 70% of the people they were talking to also said they wanted to stay in.

I'm staying with family in an area that voted Remain but quite narrowly so.

Thanks crunchy love that chart with %'s as well!

@Pilcrow , lucky you. There's a lot of Leave Means Leave Free Tommy Fakename around here.

This is another option if you would like to be an MEP candidate: www.renewparty.org.uk/become-a-candidate

I wonder how she keeps on going, still delusional that she will get her WA through eventually.

But what would happen hypothetically if she did switch to Remain/Revoke?

She won't.

But if she did - the distrust of politicians is so high the wavering voters would react against her new position.The growing public support for revoke would go into reverse within minutes of it being given TMs endorsement.

@lonely I think it would be the only way the tories keep in power, personally. I also wonder if they plan to deliver Brexit and then have a GE, so that someone else has to work the next 5 years sorting it out.
I don't think they would give up the chance to deregulate though, as that and disaster capitalism is what it has all been about.

I've been thinking how US have undoubtedly sold a few Tories down the river; particularly ones with dubious links to think tanks. I am doubtful they envisaged the global opinion of GB sinking quite so low - yet am willing to bet the US saw it a mile off. I have to believe that the UK movers and shakers thought they would be able to rebuild something home grown (probably also selling off bits they don't like, NHS etc). I'm sure they didn't bank on so many firms leaving (what's the point in cheap office space if you aren't as close to the bank that used to use it?) which is why there were so many NDA's.

It will be very interesting if we ever get a look behind the curtain.
Reminds me of this article which I think was posted earlier on in the threads How Brexit was engineered by billionaires.

It is clear that the only purpose of the May-Corbyn talks is so she can say to the EU she is talking to him.

They reminded me of the initial confrontations that my 3&4 year olds have when I'm teaching them how to compromise and share.

I hold the toy they are squabbling over and ask them to talk to each other and decide how they're going to share it.

Cue several tedious minutes of "It's mine!" "No, it's mine!" "I'm playing first!" "No, I'm playing first!"
Sulky silence. Both want the toy. Birthday party attendance may be mentioned as a bribe/threat by one or both.
"I'll play with it first, then you can." "No, I want it first."
A more contemplative silence.
"We could share..."
Bingo! And now they start working out the compromise!

DT did the equivalent of holding the Brexit toy and telling them to talk to each other