Westminstenders: Compromise is a difficult word

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Today the HoC had a water leak. It closed the house for the day. This isn't without consequence; any hope for the opportunity of Indicative Votes on Monday had cold water poured on it.

Meanwhile talks between talks between May and Corbyn were about as productive as you'd imagine. But apparently they had nice tea and biscuits.

The Cooper Bill, the last minute lock on May getting a extension to prevent no deal, has been in the Lords today. I say it's been in the Lords but Tories have filibuster Ed on procedure for over 6 hours to prevent the chance of it passing the house. Tory whips are timetabled until 6am but the opposition benches have vowed to go to 7.30am. So far the votes to ruin the procedure have failed comfortably so the opposition have the number. Its just a question of time.

The trouble is with the Lords not sitting tomorrow that means the bill won't get passed until Monday and there are fears it won't get royal assent until Tuesday.

The bill doesn't prevent accidental no deal but it would be a barrier to May.

It therefore looks like May's gambit with the EU to get an extension is to say her plan is ongoing talks with Labour for a cross party solution. It won't wash.

No deal looks more and more likely.

I lived in the Fens as a very small child in the 1950s and even then I remember (or maybe remember what my parents said), and the area then was extremely poor - areas with no mains drainage and villages with no electricity. Whatever the cause was, it was not immigration because there wasn't any. It was very much an area which had been left behind.

Yes, this is it absolutely. My parents used to blame it on a bridge built in 13something that bypassed Lincolnshire, as it were. No idea if there's truth to it.

Does this bill actually need royal assent?

Until it gets royal assent it is not an Act and is not the law. It is a formality, but it is required by our constitution.

Everyone saw this, right? Tusk instagrammed, (or whatever it is, I don't understand it) a nice tweet from the Kevin Turvey sound alike, the lovely David Allen Green.

I think that's true wrt "left behind" areas, not just Boston.

Lack of investment, leading to fewer job opportunities, fewer people going onto further/higher education. Declining birth rate. Increasing life expectancy.
Younger people moving away.

Until these areas get investment nothing will change.

One of the worst thing the Tory govt has done was shut the surestart centres.

They lowered child poverty, increased training opportunities for young mothers, provided many pre school groups....all gone.

NONE of the above is anything to do with the EU.

Maybe IF we revoke the EU could spend some money in these areas?
tries to forget Cornwall and wales voted leave

I posted a screenshot if this but no one replied.

These threads are so fast moving lack of replies happen sometimes- never anything intended by it though I just keep nagging if there's something I really want explaining!

All bills need Royal Assent before turning into an Act.

Chance of May getting 30 June extension appear slim after notes of EU meeting emerge

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/05/france-spain-and-belgium-ready-for-no-deal-brexit-next-week

France has won the support of Spain and Belgium after signalling its readiness for a no-deal Brexit on 12 April if there are no significant new British proposals,
according to a note of an EU27 meeting seen by the Guardian.
....
The diplomatic cable reveals that the French ambassador secured the support of Spanish and Belgian colleagues in arguing that there should only be, at most, a short article 50 extension to avoid an instant financial crisis, saying:

“We could probably extend for a couple of weeks to prepare ourselves in the markets.”

< May could use the 2 weeks to try her WA again ! Or even Revoke >

DadDadDad but it says it's not been upheld since 1707 :s

I find all the stuff about Lincolnshire fascinating. I was an army brat, we moved up from wilts, after 10 years of travelling around, posted from place to place. He left the army after 16 years and struggled to find work, so we moved with my dad's job. Ended up in a tiny village, with a school with 30kids in it, in the late 80s. We were very much outsiders, I spoke funny and couldn't work out why everyone called me duck.
I stayed till I was 17, couldn't wait to leave. Huge amounts of fear of incomers, the college did have a union with a few progressive types, I did art and our tutor was from Canterbury, so a different take on it all. Growing up I did those agricultural jobs, we were all white British. I think the first time I saw a black or minority person in Lincolnshire would have been visiting Lincoln. The agricultural work was back breaking, starting at 5am, working 12 hr days, freezing, in the field or in warehouses, in gangs, the gang masters made all the money, although as a 16 Yr old I was happy to have the money we did make, but grown men and women with families would have made very little. There was always work, but they struggled to get people to do it. We lived in a council house, in a fairly nice village, but we were the scum.. All the council houses are in difficult to reach places, one bus a day, 20 or more miles from Boston (or Stamford, we lived near there for a while, which was nicer, it was faily well heeled..) If we wanted to go somewhere to broaden our horizons it was an hour on the bus plus a bike ride of about 40mins to get to the bus, which is what I did to get to college. Literally the arse end of nowhere, in the fens, really bloody windy and isolated.
If we go back to see my family that settled there, in Bourne, I literally shudder going past Cambridge and can't wait to leave. It's such a backwater, I love seeing family and being army they are slightly more open minded as they've seen more, but their kids have grown up somewhere predominantly white, with no jobs, no careers around really, they just want to leave as soon as they can.. they have just such a narrow view of the world.

the European parliament’s chief Brexit representative, Guy Verhofstadt, wrote in response to Rees-Mogg’s tweet:

“For those in the EU who may be tempted to further extend the Brexit saga, I can only say, be careful what you wish for.”

That Instagram post from Tusk is genuinely heartwarming, imo. I think I am a tiny bit in love with him.

And talking of the successor to Nathalie Loiseau...

@J_amesp

Hi reality:

Amélie de Montchalin makes clear “Another extension requires that the UK puts forward a plan with clear and credible political backing...in the absence of such a plan, we would have to acknowledge that the UK chose to leave the EU in a disorderly manner.

Maybe IF we revoke the EU could spend some money in these areas?
Mmm. Remember the £22m EU food bank the tories refused? You can lead a horse...
www.google.nl/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2013/dec/17/government-under-fire-eu-funding-food-banks

A 15-year-old boy who stood up to far-right activists during violent protests in Rome has won plaudits across Italyy^.

www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/05/boy-15-simone-italy-video-hailed-as-hero-rome-roma

The number of racially motivated attacks has risen sharply in Italy, tripling between 2017 and 2018, when the League entered government in coalition with the anti-establishment M5S.

< pandering to racists only encourages them. Electing racists encourages them even more >

US revokes ICC prosecutor's visa over Afghanistan inquiry

This is the country many Brexiters prefer and the way they want to go:

www.theguardian.com/law/2019/apr/05/us-revokes-visa-of-international-criminal-courts-top-prosecutor

Fatou Bensouda wants to open investigation into alleged war crimes, including by US troops

Yup, maud it is literally the last week. I am treasuring so many things this week. Normally chipper Jo Maugham saying the same as Patrick.

havechildren
You have nailed it on part of the "left behind"
DH works in Bourne every couple of years
and the jokes about webbed feed and innocence about non whites is pervading in that county

veg picking has always been done by those who had no better option

• slaves
• prisoners of war
• travellers
• the family
• migrants from the poorest parts of the EU

and the next to come will be ROBOTS

Dh actually replied to that "Made my day" Tusk post to include the lovely Alyn Smith, the Scottish MEP who made the chers amis address to the EP directly after the referendum - and who asked them at the last session to "keep the lights on so that Scotland could find its way back"

Useful flowchart:

talkinpeace and Bourne is Naice, compared to Boston... Makes that armpit of civilisation look like.. Erm... No I've got nothing...

More heartwarming Tusk Instagram...

If there are any lexiters watching.
Brexit? It's all Greek to me, says PM Tsipras in Athens
www.ekathimerini.com/239242/article/ekathimerini/news/brexit-its-all-greek-to-me-says-pm-tsipras-in-athens?fbclid=IwAR3EUHJCqauLuWq2JoAwS7ZoBaijWRsCWdI2Kcw5SFZ--gpgXYL1Tj_LSLI

...

Tusk is a mensch.

Running that's adorable.

Running

Honestly. The media keep talking about anger and riots and retribution and civil unrest. And I just feel, really, really, desperately sad tonight. It's just so sad and unnecessary and stupid.

Tusk really does seem to be lovely.