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Westminstenders: The May Compromise

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RedToothBrush · 02/04/2019 19:20

After a marathon cabinet meeting, which no one seems to have resigned from, May has had another podium moment.

This time instead of blaming everyone but herself, she's gone for the 'let's compromise approach' to Corbyn.

This comes after Nick Boles crossed the floor saying his side wasn't prepared to compromise on anything after May secretly whipped on a 'free' vote against him.

May also said she we needed more of an extension to the 22nd May but without promise of EU elections this means No Deal inevitable if May can't pass the WA by then. Provided EU allow an extension until then without EU elections.

She also hinted at respecting a majority idea over indicative votes, if she and Corbyn fail to agree - remembering she tried successfully to sabotage that last night.

Already many are saying this is a trap to ensnare others into the mess that is Brexit in the blame game. With no deal ultimately the end goal.

The idea that May can find a compromise with Corbyn seems a fantasy.

And the EU might have every reason to refuse a longer extension under the circumstances.

For May to compromise she surely would have to break the Tories to do it as Labour will only go for a soft option which is unacceptable to the ERG. Unless her idea of compromise is simply its the WA or No deal which it seems hard to conceive Labour going near with the realistic prospect of the next PM being a hardliner.

All in all it seems more likely to be a framing exercise in damage limitation rather than something which has more substance and a realistic prospect of working. And if that's really the case, it certainly would explain why no one's resigned yet.

Indicative Votes 3 and a pretty dodgy Cooper Amendment designed to be a last ditch attempt to prevent no deal are both scheduled.

Its desparation stakes and the EU more or less have us down as a failed state. And the pro Brexit bombs don't really add much optimist to the mood.

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woman19 · 03/04/2019 19:29

@IanDunt
May is assuring people that the government will lay an order for the European elections next week - and then hope they can cancel it later.

Together with Lidington letter to Electoral Commission on preparation and Juncker etc ruling out short extension, suggests a no-deal trap increasingly unlikely.

horseshit · 03/04/2019 19:29

I still don’t know what the bill does I’m afraid. Anyone???

BloomingGarden · 03/04/2019 19:29

The 14 no-shows were probably busy destroying the photocopier.

CordeliaEarhart · 03/04/2019 19:29

So they are debating the bill, plus amendments (but we don't know which amendments cos the printer broke) and then they vote on the amendments, then vote on the bill (potentially including any amendments)?!

Belindabelle · 03/04/2019 19:29

Some of the bars around Westminster used to ring the Division Bell too. Not sure if that still happens.

RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 19:31

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/3550313-Westminstenders-The-Bill-Cash-Appreciation-Society?watched=1

A new thread especially for @horseshit

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MockerstheFeManist · 03/04/2019 19:31

The Bill is now in comittee stage, with the whole house sitting as a comittee of itself. The mace goes off for a Brasso break, and the speaker gets a rest. One of the deputy speakers sits in the clerk's chair and, er, chairs.

CordeliaEarhart · 03/04/2019 19:32

And this bill is called Withdrawal Number 5?

Now I've got Lou Bega stuck in my head.

Runningintothesunset · 03/04/2019 19:32

I love that the numbers don’t match up between their pieces of paper. Sums up today completely

Belindabelle · 03/04/2019 19:33

I have to say piss up and brewery comes to mind.

vanitythynameisnotwoman · 03/04/2019 19:33

Bercow must be away for dinner. Love Lindsay Hoyle though.

The voiceover on BBC parliament said that because this is "committee" stage despite being a very big committee in the house - then the deputy speaker has to take it. What he didn't say was why....

MockerstheFeManist · 03/04/2019 19:33

"Withdrawl Number 5" sounds like a very ineffective form of Vatican-approved Birth Control.

BercowsSilkTie · 03/04/2019 19:34

I'm a bit lost again now Confused

woman19 · 03/04/2019 19:35

Benny Hill Fascism

Update post photocopier fail.

@IanDunt
Now the amendments are by the wrong names.

BercowsSilkTie · 03/04/2019 19:35

But the withdrawal method is something not advocated by HCP Wink

Seeingadistance · 03/04/2019 19:36

So, if this is Committee Stage, do we still have 2nd reading to go before it goes to HoL tomorrow?

Runningintothesunset · 03/04/2019 19:36

Bill Cash and Yvette Cooper both think an amendment is theirs - potentially the only time in history!

dreichuplands · 03/04/2019 19:36

mockers does Labour not have an MP in jail at present?

MockerstheFeManist · 03/04/2019 19:40

Mockers does Labour not have an MP in jail at present?

Wrong on both counts.

She's out and attending. I saw her on screen last week.

And she's been expelled from the party.

The Good People of Peterborough and also quite a few of the bad ones are getting up the petition to defenistrate her.

dreichuplands · 03/04/2019 19:41

Ahh, wishful thinking on my part then.
But she still is an MP at the moment, yes?

MockerstheFeManist · 03/04/2019 19:45

...Unfortunately she is, and quite batshit delusional about carrying on.

Labour still have Jared O'Mara the Cleggslayer who has been compelled to turn up which makes a change.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 03/04/2019 19:46

committee stage is after the second reading, seeing. Next stage would be report stage and then third reading. The vote for the 3rd Reading should be tonight and then it goes to the Lords tomorrow.

Belindabelle · 03/04/2019 19:49

I am loving all this. I find the whole process fascinating although I must confess I am not up to speed with all the procedures.

RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 19:50

Labour still have Jared O'Mara the Cleggslayer who has been compelled to turn up which makes a change.

No he quit Labour.

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