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Westminstenders: The May Compromise

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RedToothBrush · 02/04/2019 19:20

After a marathon cabinet meeting, which no one seems to have resigned from, May has had another podium moment.

This time instead of blaming everyone but herself, she's gone for the 'let's compromise approach' to Corbyn.

This comes after Nick Boles crossed the floor saying his side wasn't prepared to compromise on anything after May secretly whipped on a 'free' vote against him.

May also said she we needed more of an extension to the 22nd May but without promise of EU elections this means No Deal inevitable if May can't pass the WA by then. Provided EU allow an extension until then without EU elections.

She also hinted at respecting a majority idea over indicative votes, if she and Corbyn fail to agree - remembering she tried successfully to sabotage that last night.

Already many are saying this is a trap to ensnare others into the mess that is Brexit in the blame game. With no deal ultimately the end goal.

The idea that May can find a compromise with Corbyn seems a fantasy.

And the EU might have every reason to refuse a longer extension under the circumstances.

For May to compromise she surely would have to break the Tories to do it as Labour will only go for a soft option which is unacceptable to the ERG. Unless her idea of compromise is simply its the WA or No deal which it seems hard to conceive Labour going near with the realistic prospect of the next PM being a hardliner.

All in all it seems more likely to be a framing exercise in damage limitation rather than something which has more substance and a realistic prospect of working. And if that's really the case, it certainly would explain why no one's resigned yet.

Indicative Votes 3 and a pretty dodgy Cooper Amendment designed to be a last ditch attempt to prevent no deal are both scheduled.

Its desparation stakes and the EU more or less have us down as a failed state. And the pro Brexit bombs don't really add much optimist to the mood.

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Belindabelle · 03/04/2019 19:21

It seems they have 8 minutes not 7.

Runningintothesunset · 03/04/2019 19:21

It’s carnage in there currently

cherin · 03/04/2019 19:22

What was that??? Freakin parents evening...you blink and you miss a vote these days...

MyNameIsArthur · 03/04/2019 19:22

Hi just turned on tv to parliament channel and just come on here. What has been happening?!

vanitythynameisnotwoman · 03/04/2019 19:22

Thank you! 7 minutes is not long - I suppose it depends how far they might be in all their offices.

What do these amendments mean?

Horehound · 03/04/2019 19:22

Oh god im lost. What's going on?!

Belindabelle · 03/04/2019 19:22

Third reading tonight I think.

BloomingGarden · 03/04/2019 19:23

Aren't there usually more people voting? Are the ERGers just relaxing until 10pm when they'll swoop in and vote against?

Sostenueto · 03/04/2019 19:23

Totally confused nowSad

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 03/04/2019 19:23

Omg. Glad I decided to have a quick peak!

Songsofexperience · 03/04/2019 19:24

Is it too early to rejoice?
What's the next hurdle?

Sostenueto · 03/04/2019 19:24

What are all these amendments being read out? HOUSE!

Runningintothesunset · 03/04/2019 19:24

Deputy speaker trying to read out amendments but the office photocopier is broken so they’re all clueless as to which is which

prettybird · 03/04/2019 19:25

I'm confused: I thought it wasn't the Withdrawal Bill that passed, but the Cooper Bill saying that the PM must bring a legally-binding vote on seeking an extension to A50 Confused

And that they now have an evening of votes to try and get this through in a single evening Shock

RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 19:25

Robert Peston@peston
Absolute chaos on Commons as vast series of amendments chosen by deputy speaker Hoyle for debate but no MPs around to move and debate them. Bonkers! Sums up whole Brexit debacle

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MockerstheFeManist · 03/04/2019 19:25

625 votes cast

650 mps

There's 7 Sinn Fein, Bercow, and Paul Flynn is dead and thus excused voting. That leaves 14 no-shows.

HazardGhost · 03/04/2019 19:26

WA not passed nor voted on yet. Cooper passed putting a road block in to no deal.

I think.

AutumnCrow · 03/04/2019 19:26

This is an extraordinary day. A Bill is being pushed through in a day. This first and second readings, committee stages, and third reading, will happen today.

The House of Lords stage, should the Bill survive the day, will happen tomorrow.

^^ According to Mark and Dr Ruth on BBC Parliament

Belindabelle · 03/04/2019 19:26

Bercow must be away for dinner. Love Lindsay Hoyle though.

TheMShip · 03/04/2019 19:27

Could someone explain again how the Cooper bill works? I'm lost.

Unescorted · 03/04/2019 19:27

And there are also screens and bells in the MPs offices just over the road.

The bells in the HoL rooms are louder than the ones in the commons and they are given longer to get to the Lords.

RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 19:27

Jessica elgot@jessicaelgot
The deputy Speaker has been reading out the numbers of amendments selected but no one - including most of the MPs in the House - know what any of the numbers mean because the list of amendments had not been printed

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horseshit · 03/04/2019 19:27

So the bill forces May to have a legally binding vote on an extension? Isn’t that a bit reckless, and relying too heavily on the Tory rebels?

tobee · 03/04/2019 19:28

Yvette Cooper just shows everyone else up.

MockerstheFeManist · 03/04/2019 19:28

....addendum: Also three deputy speakers don't vote, so that leaves 11 no-shows.