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Westminstenders: The May Compromise

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RedToothBrush · 02/04/2019 19:20

After a marathon cabinet meeting, which no one seems to have resigned from, May has had another podium moment.

This time instead of blaming everyone but herself, she's gone for the 'let's compromise approach' to Corbyn.

This comes after Nick Boles crossed the floor saying his side wasn't prepared to compromise on anything after May secretly whipped on a 'free' vote against him.

May also said she we needed more of an extension to the 22nd May but without promise of EU elections this means No Deal inevitable if May can't pass the WA by then. Provided EU allow an extension until then without EU elections.

She also hinted at respecting a majority idea over indicative votes, if she and Corbyn fail to agree - remembering she tried successfully to sabotage that last night.

Already many are saying this is a trap to ensnare others into the mess that is Brexit in the blame game. With no deal ultimately the end goal.

The idea that May can find a compromise with Corbyn seems a fantasy.

And the EU might have every reason to refuse a longer extension under the circumstances.

For May to compromise she surely would have to break the Tories to do it as Labour will only go for a soft option which is unacceptable to the ERG. Unless her idea of compromise is simply its the WA or No deal which it seems hard to conceive Labour going near with the realistic prospect of the next PM being a hardliner.

All in all it seems more likely to be a framing exercise in damage limitation rather than something which has more substance and a realistic prospect of working. And if that's really the case, it certainly would explain why no one's resigned yet.

Indicative Votes 3 and a pretty dodgy Cooper Amendment designed to be a last ditch attempt to prevent no deal are both scheduled.

Its desparation stakes and the EU more or less have us down as a failed state. And the pro Brexit bombs don't really add much optimist to the mood.

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BercowsSilkTie · 03/04/2019 19:07

I assume the Tories are whipping against?

RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 19:09

Robert Peston@peston
And this is senior member of Cabinet ⁦*@LiamFox⁩ saying ⁦*@jeremycorbyn⁩ cannot have even his minimum Brexit demand, namely membership of customs union. This is so waring

Liam Fox loses his job if there is a CU....

Westminstenders: The May Compromise
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AutumnCrow · 03/04/2019 19:09

Barclay has completely misread the room, the nation, the facts and his own abilities.

Sostenueto · 03/04/2019 19:09

Well JC did say about PV and TM still immoveable he did put forward customs union etc but inconclusive outcome. At least he tried. Will talks continue? Downing street seems to think so. Not sure JC thinks that. All shit really.Sad

HazardGhost · 03/04/2019 19:12

ada I hadn't seen that, interesting!

1tisILeClerc · 03/04/2019 19:13

AdaHopper
This was mentioned on Westminsterenders probably a good month back.
The BBC have to have some facilities based in the EU to continue broadcasting some of it's services.

havingtochangeusernameagain · 03/04/2019 19:15

Liam Fox loses his job if there is a CU

This has always been one of the pluses for me of a soft Brexit :)

Mind you they could give him the railways to look after instead. Although I suppose he would be hard pushed to be less competent than Grayling...

RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 19:15

Speculation that there's another close vote on the 2nd reading on the withdrawal act.

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1tisILeClerc · 03/04/2019 19:16

{Liam Fox loses his job if there is a CU....}
How does this fit with his power grab that I think you? reported a week or so back?
Basically taking control of all international trade deals, bypassing the usual department.

Sostenueto · 03/04/2019 19:16

So MPs can't be bothered to even debate such an important bill? That's because they all know its a no deal brexit and God help us all.

Belindabelle · 03/04/2019 19:17

They ring the Division Bell to let MPs know they have to vote. I think they have 7 mins to get to the voting lobby before the doors close.

RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 19:17

Ayes 315 noes 310

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Sostenueto · 03/04/2019 19:18

315 ayes 310 noes

AutumnCrow · 03/04/2019 19:18

Buckle up. Third reading tonight.

Runningintothesunset · 03/04/2019 19:18

Aye 315 - no 310

BercowsSilkTie · 03/04/2019 19:18

THE AYES HAVE IT!!!

Belindabelle · 03/04/2019 19:19

If I was in charge I would make every MP who wishes to vote to actually listen to the debate.

RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 19:19

Basically taking control of all international trade deals, bypassing the usual department.

Well if we are in a CU we wouldn't need those trade deals.

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Horehound · 03/04/2019 19:19

Right so now it goes to house of lords tomorrow?

Runningintothesunset · 03/04/2019 19:19

Is there some sort of rule in which Bill Cash always has to have the first point of order Hmm

Peregrina · 03/04/2019 19:19

Sorry, been busy, the Ayes have what? Do Remainers need to be pleased, or do we start sobbing?

horseshit · 03/04/2019 19:19

It passed! Holy shit!

BercowsSilkTie · 03/04/2019 19:20

@AutumnCrow what do you mean by third reading?

Sostenueto · 03/04/2019 19:20

Another reading? Where in HoC or HoL?Confused

HazardGhost · 03/04/2019 19:21

peregrina remainers be happy!

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