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Westminstenders: The May Compromise

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RedToothBrush · 02/04/2019 19:20

After a marathon cabinet meeting, which no one seems to have resigned from, May has had another podium moment.

This time instead of blaming everyone but herself, she's gone for the 'let's compromise approach' to Corbyn.

This comes after Nick Boles crossed the floor saying his side wasn't prepared to compromise on anything after May secretly whipped on a 'free' vote against him.

May also said she we needed more of an extension to the 22nd May but without promise of EU elections this means No Deal inevitable if May can't pass the WA by then. Provided EU allow an extension until then without EU elections.

She also hinted at respecting a majority idea over indicative votes, if she and Corbyn fail to agree - remembering she tried successfully to sabotage that last night.

Already many are saying this is a trap to ensnare others into the mess that is Brexit in the blame game. With no deal ultimately the end goal.

The idea that May can find a compromise with Corbyn seems a fantasy.

And the EU might have every reason to refuse a longer extension under the circumstances.

For May to compromise she surely would have to break the Tories to do it as Labour will only go for a soft option which is unacceptable to the ERG. Unless her idea of compromise is simply its the WA or No deal which it seems hard to conceive Labour going near with the realistic prospect of the next PM being a hardliner.

All in all it seems more likely to be a framing exercise in damage limitation rather than something which has more substance and a realistic prospect of working. And if that's really the case, it certainly would explain why no one's resigned yet.

Indicative Votes 3 and a pretty dodgy Cooper Amendment designed to be a last ditch attempt to prevent no deal are both scheduled.

Its desparation stakes and the EU more or less have us down as a failed state. And the pro Brexit bombs don't really add much optimist to the mood.

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Motheroffourdragons · 03/04/2019 17:33

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SassyBadger · 03/04/2019 17:34

'93 is a few Speakers ago.

MockerstheFeManist · 03/04/2019 17:34

So who didn't turn up?

And did the govt honour all of its pairs?

tobee · 03/04/2019 17:34

Hooray a tie means more Bill Cash Envy

PonyoPonyo · 03/04/2019 17:34

I'm watching live (or so it says) but RTB and this thread in general is 2 minutes ahead! What is this witchcraft? Grin

RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 17:34

Louise he's been fair on his rulings all the way through. I bet we don't get too many complaints on this ruling.

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RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 17:36

Ponyo if I watch TV in my bedroom through a now TV box it's out of sync with TV in front room.

I'm watching direct through an ariel.

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HazardGhost · 03/04/2019 17:36

What are the kids voting in today?

Can't believe I missed the tie, out of ORDER!

RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 17:36

Yes Benns amendment.

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tobee · 03/04/2019 17:37

Is there more to come? Today?

prettybird · 03/04/2019 17:37

I don't think that they need to use pairs any more as proxy votes are allowed.

RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 17:39

Well I'm pleased on one level.

I got my Brexit speakers vote Grin

[the nerd in me is happy]

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NoWordForFluffy · 03/04/2019 17:39

So does that mean no more indicative votes then?

So what's the plan now, bearing in mind we will crash out on Friday next week?

NoWordForFluffy · 03/04/2019 17:40

And who exactly did the residents of Northants piss off to deserve such a lovely selection of MPs?!

MarshaBradyo · 03/04/2019 17:41

Just caught it, Bercow is v amusing.

Not sure what Benn’s amendment was though?

RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 17:41

Possibly. Possibly not. Ian Dunt thinks there might be another op for one.

It rather scuppers May's plan to fall back on indicative votes if necessary!!!!

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prettybird · 03/04/2019 17:42

According to Sky, it was for time for more indicative votes Sad

NoWordForFluffy · 03/04/2019 17:43

Is anything happening tomorrow? If not, Monday is the next day they'll do anything as they're not sitting on Friday. Talk about leaving it bloody late.

Motheroffourdragons · 03/04/2019 17:44

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havingtochangeusernameagain · 03/04/2019 17:44

Hadn't May said that if she and Corbyn couldn't agree, she would put it back to the House? So the government would give parliament the time? I am assuming (perhaps wrongly) that that is the reason they've said no at this point? Though a safety net of sorts would be nice...

tobee · 03/04/2019 17:44

So 30 not voted? Abstentions?

Peregrina · 03/04/2019 17:44

“Managed” Brexit (a la Malthouse) is a fucking unicorn

Alternatively, it's Nessie - people swear she exists, but despite extensive searches can never find her.

jasjas1973 · 03/04/2019 17:44

Well I never, he's actually done what he's supposed to

Bercow always has, just because the ruling may go against what you what, doesn't mean it's wrong! in this case i would have prefered more indicative votes.

He has been in this role for a long time and takes it very seriously.

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TheNumberfaker · 03/04/2019 17:45

Is anything more happening tonight? Like others, I just caught wind of a tie.