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How are those Leave street parties going tonight?

487 replies

Bearbehind · 29/03/2019 20:53

So how are the celebrating going?

Didn’t exactly go to plan did it?

Has it started to sink in what a fucking mess this all is?

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prettybird · 29/03/2019 22:17

I'm looking forward to voting in the EU elections Smile

Those that don't want to be part of the EU are of course free to choose to vote for UKIP/the Brexit Party candidates - or choose not to vote at all. Grin

I'm hopeful that Scotland will manage to get rid of its shame Smile: the odious, execrable and totally useless David Coburn, the only UKIP member elected in any capacity at any level Shock He only got in in 2014 because the LibDem vote collapsed as a result of the coalition Sad

joyfullittlehippo · 29/03/2019 22:18

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Mrslouislou · 29/03/2019 22:19

I'm a leaver. I'm not hard to please. The majority voted leave. You keep calling us thick, uneducated, etc. Whatever.
The public voted. What would make me happy is to leave. Simple.
Stop painting leavers as moanbags. We've been disrespected and disregarded. Of course that is offensive.
Remainers didn't like the way the vote went, so determinedly wrecked it and destroyed democracy

Could not have put it better myself!!!
Fed up of remainers saying ‘the only way forward is revoke’...um no. You would say that because you never wanted to leave in the first place!!! It’s not about who shouts the loudest online and in the streets, the majority voted leave and that’s that. That’s the point of a vote. A ‘once in a lifetime’ vote or do we were told.
If 17m voted remain and the leavers lost and were begging for a second referendum, the remainers would be up in arms. The majority vote should be respected and upheld regardless of your own personal opinions. Thankfully most remainers I know are entirely gracious about their referendum loss.

Bowchicawowow · 29/03/2019 22:20

It wasn't illegal. It wasn't purely advisory. It was politically binding. Stop spouting lies.

Pannalash · 29/03/2019 22:20

Here have a Biscuit OP

Fazackerley · 29/03/2019 22:21

Why are people.so.angry? How will brexit improve their lives? What on earth do leavers think they are going to get out of leaving?

everythingisginandroses · 29/03/2019 22:21

Yes, I get all that. Once again, though, what terms are we leaving on?

Jason118 · 29/03/2019 22:22

We won't get what we want because we don't know what it is!

Bowchicawowow · 29/03/2019 22:23

It doesn't matter what they thought Fazakerley. They exercised their democratic right to vote leave. They don't need to give reasons for their decision.

everythingisginandroses · 29/03/2019 22:23

Jason, I fear you may be right!

Fazackerley · 29/03/2019 22:26

All that frothing! Their lives will barely change brexit or no brexit. What on earth do they think is going to happen after brexit.

Fazackerley · 29/03/2019 22:27

They don't need to give reasons for their decision

Just as well really.

Bowchicawowow · 29/03/2019 22:27

Using language like frothing is really unhelpful, Everybody needs to grow up.

ScarletBitch · 29/03/2019 22:28

Oh fuck off being goady Hmm

Fazackerley · 29/03/2019 22:28

I've literally just seen people being interviewed on the news absolutely livid. I can't imagine what they think they were supposed to get out of brexit.

Windowsareforcheaters · 29/03/2019 22:29

Bowchicawowow

It wasn't purely advisory. It was politically binding

You seem confused.

It was legally and constitutionally advisory. You may believe it was politically binding but that does not negate the fact it was advisory.

Bowchicawowow · 29/03/2019 22:32

I am not confused. All sides said they would be bound by the result. It was politically binding.

maizieD · 29/03/2019 22:32

Sorry, long time lurker here.

37% is enough though because Parliament said they would honour the result

You've said it three times now, Bowchicawowow and I can't ignore it any more. Parliament did not say they would honour the vote. The idiot Cameron did and he was not Parliament. He wasn't even constitutionally entitled to say it.

This is what Parliament was told about the EU referendum in House of Commons Briefing no. 7212 . This was the information given to MPs about the Bill they were going to vote on.

This Bill requires a referendum to be held on the question of the UK’s continued membership of the European Union (EU) before the end of 2017. It does not contain any requirement for the UK Government to implement the results of the referendum, nor set a time limit by which a vote to leave the EU should be implemented. Instead, this is a type of referendum known as pre-legislative or consultative, which enables the electorate to voice an opinion which then influences the Government in its policy decisions. The referendums held in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland in 1997 and 1998 are examples of this type, where opinion was tested before legislation was introduced. The UK does not have constitutional provisions which would require the results of a referendum to be implemented, unlike, for example, the Republic of Ireland, where the circumstances in which a binding referendum should be held are set out in its constitution.

I can't give a link because it's a download but it's easy to find. Just search on House of Commons Briefing 7212 The information is towards the end of the document under 'Types of Referendum'

Fazackerley · 29/03/2019 22:34

It wasn't politically binding until May triggered article 50

Windowsareforcheaters · 29/03/2019 22:34

It may be politically binding in your opinion but that does not make it legally binding. It was advisory.

maizieD gives a good explanation as to how the PM is not Parliament.

Bowchicawowow · 29/03/2019 22:35

Both sides said they would honour the result. Every person who voted in the referendum did so on that basis. The after the result Gina Miller said to her children who were crying not to worry because Mummy will sort it. That's when Parliament voted on the issue. And here we are.

everythingisginandroses · 29/03/2019 22:36

???

Windowsareforcheaters · 29/03/2019 22:38

The legislation that made the referendum advisory was passed prior to the referendum.

Parliament is sovereign in the U.K. and can not be bound not by the people or by a previous parliament.

Have we explained it enough times yet?

Bowchicawowow · 29/03/2019 22:42

Yes I understand that we don't have a written constitution and that Parliament is sovereign. However Parliament is bound by the result in my option. Not one MP raised this as an issue prior to the vote. Cameron's assertion that both sides would honour the result was never questioned.

Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean that I am thick.

Bowchicawowow · 29/03/2019 22:46

opinion not option.