Westminstenders: Happy Brexit Day!

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Happy Brexit day!

Oh wait. No its not.

May looks like she is going to bring the MVIII (Meaningful Vote 3) tomorrow minus the PD (political declaration).

The legalities of this are questionable should the vote pass. The MV needs to have an accompanying PD, by law under the terms of the Withdrawal Act.

That's kind of irrelevant given the likelihood of the deal passing anyway. The DUP have apparently negotiated a 'Stormont Lock' to get more assurances, only for them promptly to say there's no chance of them voting for the deal anyway.

The vote is all about Labour v Conservatives and where we can lay the blame for no deal in two weeks time.

Meanwhile we are already into a prolonged Tory Leader Election with all its glorious gentlemanly behaviour.

Anyway its time for extra time and national riots for delaying Brexit.

If the thugs on the street break the law, then I hope they get arrested and face lengthy sentences, like the rioters years ago.

Nick Gutteridge @nick_gutteridge
EU Commission: 'No deal on April 12 is now a likely scenario. The benefits of the Withdrawal Agreement, including a transition period, will in no circumstances be replicated in a no deal scenario. Sectoral mini-deals are not an option.'

This is why I can't be happy at Mays deal being defeated today

Right;
Labour: new leader ASAP/ another vote not a GE !
( I am not in favour of a another vote, but they have to do something)
Tories; words fail me.
Any other PM would be gone. This is a farce.

I think Steve Baker has misunderstood what TM said. She said she'd stand down if it passed. Now it has failed she is here forever - and she isn't even backtracking this time. She made no promises to go in the event of failure.

I think her defeat speech was pretty clear she is going to try and find a way to return it again next week.

The gap is closing each time isn't it. Can anyone scrunch the numbers?

Some thugs would riot if the WA had been voted through and some thugs will riot because it hasn't. They have thugs for all outcomes.

“An enormous demonstration” according to state broadcaster

I'm afraid Corbyn needs to go - now

I like the guy, personally, but he's not the right person for the job and if he cares about getting the Tories out and improving people's lives, he needs to take one for the team and fuck off

would Bercow allow the WA to come back yet again?

That's a good point, but for the motions of the indicative votes, I believe Bercow specifically said that it was part of the process that some of the motions would be considered again on Monday. I'm just wondering if May think she can argue that WA gets shoehorned into the process because it got more ayes than other indicative motions?

At the exact point that MPs were voting, i got an email from the Dutch immigration department with my temporary residence permit. every British person in the Netherlands gets one valid for 15 months. It was very poetic to recieve it at just that point. Hopefully I will have the passport awarded before it expires. Bloody David Cameron and all the tory idiots who put me and so many others in this position.

They will vote for ' no deal' now?
They voted against it the other day?

She could get her deal through if it was conditional on a people's vote. I'm sure that would be a substantial enough change to satisfy Bercow.

Either that, or Ken Clarke's customs union proposal, are the only sensible ways forward. But of course the stubborn bat won't even consider it.

Is she just going to keep rolling the dice until she gets 6?

Surely Berkow won't let her bring it back again, unless there's another sleight of hand to get around his ruling.

Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn
May: we are now “reaching the limits of this House”. Strong hint she’s moving towards calling a general election.

No.

It can be read in different ways:

1. a GE
2. a PV
3. a declaration of an emergency and the executive taking the decision unilaterally

Do NOT fall into the trap of reading this comment the way you would like to hear it.

Stay of execution Red?

Monday will be interesting.

If it had gone through she would presumably have stood down and it would be someone of the many ghastly to become pm and do what they fancied.

Dictatorship it is, then

Even though May didn't say she'd go if the WA failed again, I think her days are numbered now. Her reputation is shot to pieces.

I think Steve Baker has misunderstood what TM said. She said she'd stand down if it passed. Now it has failed she is here forever - and she isn't even backtracking this time. She made no promises to go in the event of failure.

On the basis her offered "resignation" was forgotten about 10 minutes after it was news, it was never going to happen.

I wonder if she was using this vote to try and nobble any successors ? Has voting for it improved or damaged BoJos chances ?

All Back on Monday for more of this fun & games.

I am liking the Brexity Mob's heraldic banners. Very Richard the Lionheart. (He was French, btw.)

My bet is on 3) a declaration of an emergency and the executive taking the decision unilaterally

The only deal on offer is now dead (surely), but they don't want to leave without a deal, and then don't want to remain.

You honestly couldn't make this shit up could you?

I scrunched the numbers...

Vote 1

202- Yes 432 - No ( 230)

Vote 2
242 - Yes 391 - No (149)

Vote 3
286 - Yes 344 - No
(58)

Sorry, what is a PV again?

Very Richard the Lionheart. (He was French, btw.)

And he hated England. He was the one who said he would sell London only he couldn't find a buyer.

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So both ERG and Remainers in there