Westminstenders: Indicative Crossiants

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Tomorrow the Indicative debate starts at 3pm

The Speaker will choose options to go to vote.

Vote at 7pm for yes or no for each option.

7.30pm The SI debate on extension followed by vote.

Announcement of the indicative vote sometime between 8.15pm and 9.30pm

Meanwhile the DUP have indicated they would prefer a long delay (and presumably EU elections by default) rather than May's deal, in a strange twist of Brexit.

Wera Hobhouse Just made me jump out of my chair to applaude her.

‘We should not be threatened by those who tell us they riot in the streets if there is another referendum. Does parliament only listen to people when they throw stones or send death threats...’

Just read your update Hazard to you and DP

I am recovering from having eaten too much cottage pie.

I am so hoping that waiting till the last few days to crumble and vote for WA will prove to be the downfall for the brexiteers and that when the deal comes back it will have a referendum attached to it.

Partly because they will then have to go out and campaign for a deal they have repeatedly described as not brexit. Ample material for led by donkeys.

Wera Hobhouse was excellent.

Johnston will not make it to the membership vote. Neither will Javed because bluntly the membership will not vote for him, do we need to go into why?

Gove vs someone like Hunt. Possibly Hunt himself who is a lot like himself.

Then its over to the most senile electorate in the world to choose one from two, if that's not too much for them.

Just a quick thought - this couldn't be a massive distraction for ERG from the votes tonight? So they back something or abstain from something that they think is innocuous but TM knows already that WA won't come back?

@OublietteBravo I agree, they don't care if brexit takes forever while they've got the tories by the balls. A new leader might want a GE to get a proper working majority and then the DUP will be surplus to requirements

He will allow it. No man is bigger than Parliament - no matter what size his ego,

Bercow isn't refusing it on a whim. He is upholding the rules. Well established rules that the government is very much aware of and should not be looking surprised about encountering. As Bercow has said more than once, if parliament really want to vote on the WA again they are entitled to have a vote to change the rule that is stopping it being brought to vote again. This is absolutely within the powers of parliament if there really is support for the WA.

However, the fact is the WA is dead, it has been dead since it was bloody written and it will continue to be dead. Dead as a dodo, dead as a dead parrot, dead as the inhabitants of Red Dwarf. The WA is dead Dave, Dave the WA is dead.

About 9pm ish for outcome of the indicative vote I believe

RTB thank you again re: your post at 17.12 - very illuminating and much appreciated.

Mockers I'd not be so sure about Johnson - he has backing from Bannon and probably some shady figures offering Tories much needed funding...

BBC says indicative results at 9pm

But the latest news from ERG meeting suggests it will be entirely ignored anyway!

babooshka, I liked her speech too. Didn't know who she was, tbh, but she sounded eminently sensible.

Have they given any indication of what time votes will be done by?

£25 to join the tories; get a vote in the leadership election after 3 months. That's probably long enough.

If someone signed up as a Tory party member now, would they be eligible for a vote in an upcoming leadership election? Asking for a friend...

Interesting fact: Wera Hobhouse and Mr Wera Hobhouse used to be Conservative councillors, and switched to the Lib Dems.

I like her obviously genuine passion.

@BiglyBadgers I sincerely hope the WA is dead

I'm freaked out by the potential of Boris or Gove as PM . Always their long term plan, wasn't it?

Vile Tory backstabbing

I was also pondering that, but a quick google would show I stood for local council elections so that wouldn't work for me.

I like GMT

Oubliette Great minds..!

But the latest news from ERG meeting suggests it will be entirely ignored anyway!

But that's when the fun really starts. If parliament makes a clear decision (I know, I know) and the PM ignores it what will parliament do about that, huh?

Cordelia I had to google her - Lib Dem for Bath.

Boris, really?

£25 to fuck Boris Johnson's leadership ambitions over? Bargain.

Butterymuffin

That was a well-timed x-post on our part, wasn’t it?!