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Westminstenders: Neglectful Drunkeness!

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RedToothBrush · 16/03/2019 23:04

The HoC has spend the past 3 years in a state of Neglectful Drunkeness.

As it stands less then two weeks from Brexit Day, there is no deal we were promised. The Conservative and Labour Parties are more divided than ever.

The government is in disarray as 8 Cabinet ministers plus the chief whip voted against the Prime Minister including the Brexit Secretary who had minutes earlier argued for an extension only to vote against it. He is now on the brink of resignation.

The DUP look like they may be about to capitulate and vote for a deal. But it may not be enough even then.

This is what the cliff edge looks like.

Who wants to take a closer look?

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bellinisurge · 17/03/2019 20:09

I imagine some Parliamentary jiggery pokery to stop No Deal. What that looks like, I have no idea.

Icantreachthepretzels · 17/03/2019 20:13

Unlike Farage, they'll have to live in Brexit Britain

Actually - the DUP may well find themselves outside of Brexit Britain and living in a United Ireland. Would serve them right.

I just saw this on youtube

It's pretty old so has probably been posted before - but it's good for a laugh. And 2 years later- it's still relevant as we're no further ahead with no clearer idea of what's going to happen.
NoWordForFluffy · 17/03/2019 20:13

I imagine it looks like a load of debating followed by motions / amendments put forwards which the HoC will then vote on.

It's baffling that last Thursday was thought to be 'too soon' to vote on a PV. Looks like the HoC enjoys being 'last minute Larry' on this matter.

I don't have any fingernails left to chew now.

When are they going to tell us their plans to avoid No Deal?

Holidayshopping · 17/03/2019 20:18

@SparklySneakers oh right, I thought that was a definite!

So, what could happen this week? Has there been a flow chart of possibilities published yet?!

HesterThrale · 17/03/2019 20:18

Well, if they do finally get the WA through, they might find the timing off... just as the public are going off that version of Brexit:
(New Yougov survey)

If a referendum were held today, likely voters divide 61% to 39% in favour of Remain rather than leaving on the terms negotiated by Theresa May.

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/poll-from-yougov-shows-surge-in-support-for-second-brexit-referendum-1-5942288

yolofish · 17/03/2019 20:20

found you! missed 24 hours, page 9 already.

TokyoSushi · 17/03/2019 20:38

Late PMK

1tisILeClerc · 17/03/2019 20:47

Copied from the article in the New European about Mr Frans Timmermann saying that Farage, Johnson and Fox should apologise to the people of the UK.
The delivery of his speech is a stark contrast to the shambles in Westminster and is worth watching.
The EU, recognising the 16.1 Million who are being ignored.

{European Commission vice president Frans Timmermans targeted Nigel Farage, Liam Fox and Boris Johnson as he addressed MEPs in Strasbourg.

He suggested former UKIP leader Farage should face Nissan workers and explain that his “pipe dream” could cost their jobs.

Timmermans said: “Having listened to Mr Farage and his colleagues and seeing the hubris with which he stands here and the self-gratification of his position, I sometimes wonder, has he gone to Sunderland and talked to the workers at the Nissan plant and said to them ‘It might cost you your job, but I will get my pipe dream of so-called sovereignty’?

“Has he gone to Oxford, to the Mini plant, and said ‘I know what BMW are thinking if there is a no-deal Brexit, but I want it so badly, this no-deal Brexit, that I really don’t care about your job’? Has he done that? That would have been the honest thing to do.”

Turning to the international trade secretary, he said: “Has Dr Liam Fox ever said ‘Well, I said it would be the easiest trade deal in human history, but on second thoughts it’s much more complicated than I promised before the referendum’?

“Has Boris Johnson gone to the doctors and nurses of the NHS and said ‘I did promise you £350 million extra a week; sorry, I can’t deliver on that promise’?

“Have they done that? I think, frankly, we would need, if we want to come out of this situation, a bit more modesty and honesty on all sides.”

He told them to have the “courage” to go to Ireland too and tell them their plans and what they ae willing to sacrifice for their Brexit dreams.

“A place where, since 1998 peace has reigned and violence has disappeared. Tell the people there ‘my pipe dream is more important than your peace and quiet, and I will accept that pipe dream if it means a hard border’”.

The official also questioned why so few politicians in the UK referenced the 16.1 million people who voted to Remain. He reminded Westminster that “they have not disappeared.”

“Isn’t the essence of European democracy to also accept and respect the position of minorities in our countries? Isn’t the essence of democracy that we try to build bridges and find solutions that can be carried by most people in our society?”

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Timmerman’s speech prompted heckling from supporters of Farage like MEP David Coburn, who tried to shout down the official by shouting about his freedom.

In a fiery exchange deputy president Viviane Reding intervened to criticise Coburn by saying: “You and I have a special relationship. I’m special and I don’t know what you are!”

Farage, meanwhile, used his own contribution to the European parliament debate to call for politicians in Brussels to overrule the British parliament in its bid to extend Article 50, making a mockery of his concerns about sovereignty. Following Barnier’s estimation of how long negotiations about the EU-UK future relationship could take, he said: “We don’t want to waste four more years of our life, four more years of agony.”

He called for any extension request from Britain to be vetoed, adding: “We leave, and both you and we can get on with the rest of our lives. That’s the only neat solution ahead of us.”}

borntobequiet · 17/03/2019 20:48

I think once 60% for Remain is passed, there’s no going back.
Hopefully the march next weekend will be mega. That should put the frighteners on.

Littlespaces · 17/03/2019 20:53

What happens with the march if the WA scrapes through?

TalkinPaece · 17/03/2019 20:54

The WA is the start of the next ten years of shit
the March is about remembering that 48% did not want this crap

TatianaLarina · 17/03/2019 20:54

It will be bigger and angrier.

TatianaLarina · 17/03/2019 20:56

The WA is the start of the next ten years of shit the March is about remembering that 48% did not want this crap

Yep.

SparklySneakers · 17/03/2019 21:00

Lots of the leave voters will be dead before the end of negotiations.

1tisILeClerc · 17/03/2019 21:07

www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47562904
Should be a link to cat videos.

BigChocFrenzy · 17/03/2019 21:12

At the 21-22 March European Council meeting, E27 heads of govt will decide on any request by the UK for an extension.

So, if May intends to put the WA to a vote, it has to be by Wednesday,
so that she knows what length extension to request the next day - and what plan / justification to give

The E27 will be pissed by the lack of formal notice, because normally the Sherpas prepare briefing papers on all agenda items in advance
and the heads of govt have at least 2 days to read them & consider their posiiton.
At any summit, decisions aren't supposed to be suddenly sprung on the leaders.

However, the EU has been war-gaming the possible extension scenarios, so they'll have decided at least their individual positions

ElenadeClermont · 17/03/2019 21:17

DH is convinced that Farage will support EU elections. Otherwise he would have to get a proper job. And he can't be bothered to try for the HoC again.

Peregrina · 17/03/2019 21:23

What happens with the march if the WA scrapes through?

We go into transition. We take a leaf out of the books of those E Europeans who brought USSR Communism down - WE KEEP MARCHING.

QueenOfThorns · 17/03/2019 21:38

Feline placemark - Lady L

Westminstenders: Neglectful Drunkeness!
Songsofexperience · 17/03/2019 21:39

Hopefully the march next weekend will be mega.
I know quite a few people planning to go who didn't last time.

Icantreachthepretzels · 17/03/2019 21:49

Is there any news on how the epic protest march to leave is going? I didn't see any pictures today. Did they make it to Middlesborough safely?

TalkinPaece · 17/03/2019 21:51

pretzels
Best place to look is Led By Donkeys on FB or Twitter
as they are covering it brilliantly

Brexitisshit · 17/03/2019 21:51

I’m going to the march this time. I couldn’t make the last one.

ElenadeClermont · 17/03/2019 21:53

The march today mobile.twitter.com/bydonkeys?lang=en