Westminstenders: Neglectful Drunkeness!

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The HoC has spend the past 3 years in a state of Neglectful Drunkeness.

As it stands less then two weeks from Brexit Day, there is no deal we were promised. The Conservative and Labour Parties are more divided than ever.

The government is in disarray as 8 Cabinet ministers plus the chief whip voted against the Prime Minister including the Brexit Secretary who had minutes earlier argued for an extension only to vote against it. He is now on the brink of resignation.

The DUP look like they may be about to capitulate and vote for a deal. But it may not be enough even then.

This is what the cliff edge looks like.

Who wants to take a closer look?

Redwood now saying Govt shouldn't ask for an extension (even though that's what Parlt voted for).

Kwarteng - we live in a Parliamentary democracy and Parlt was clear last week that we should take no deal off the table and should seek an extension if WA didn't pass.

I hope someone asks the question that we're all asking.....what are you going to use the extension for?!?

Kwarteng seems so sane for a 2019 Tory.

I see my favourite right wing weeble Mark 'I was in the army, I didn't train to lose' Francois keeps bobbing to his feet no doubt longing to impart some words of sense and reason.

Did you hear the background to Mark F's "army days"?

He was in the Cadets and then the TA.

So not an outright lie per se but...yeah...not exactly in Afghanistan!

Mark F at least asking questions that are useful.

Did chortle at "How long will the extension be for, or hasn't Olly Robbins told the cabinet yet?"

Kwasi is an out for himself arse.

Re the vox pops DGRosetti I've certainly noticed that they seem to take place in shopping centres and the like, in the middle of the day, on a weekday, and most participants seem, not surprisingly, to be retirees which is going to get you a tendency to a leave attitude with that demographic. With apologies to my dyed on the wool remainer octogenarian parents.

Fair point Rosetti, but as an obvious Remain voter wouldn't you rather WA than No Deal or a request to extend for so long that the 'uncertainty', continues for years?

WA = ‘uncertainty’ that ‘continues for years. It doesn’t solve anything and given that it has no support at all in Parl would be impossible to negotiate a deal from.

May has negotiated the wrong deal that launches the country into interminable quagmire. A long extension that would enable cross party talks, indicative votes, GE, PV, whatever is vastly preferable.

But then swore at the "Will Big Ben strike at 11 to celebrate our freedom?" Dick.

Just when I thought Mark Francois couldn’t be a bigger arse than he already is...

Kwarteng

• Length of the extension depends on whether we vote for the WA or not

So they still want to resurrect the WA and bring in back....

Bets are open for where TM will poke the money she was going to stuff into DUP's G-string for this weeks' vote...

Benn - Will the length of the extension be brought back to Parlt or agreed at EUCO?

Kwarteng - PM would write a letter and length of time will be agreed between EU and Govt

but that mandate doesn't override everything else
Nothing can bind what parliament does in the future, or even the next day.

It wasn't even a legally binding referendum - deliberately so by Cameron and the HoC

Even if it had been, the HoC could have repealed the binding bit right after the ref.

if the WA had been approved narrowly last time, but then a couple of MPs died or changed their minds,
it could have been repealed the next day.

wheresmymojo it's always the blokes who had the mildest of brushes with army life that like to boast as though they've had the toughest of military careers. Francois is a Fast Show character!

The length of an extension would be impossible to agree in time if the HoC had to vote on it !

May will request the time she wants - hopefully with some sane plan for what she intends to do with the extra time

The E27 heads of govt will consider it in their EU Council meeting Thur - Fri
May would presumably be allowed to explain further why she wants it
and this might be when any actual negotiation on time happens

The only way to resurrect the broken corpse of the WA would possibly be to have it as an option on a PV. I suspect this decree from Bercow has upped the chances of a PV being called.

Oooooh Kwarteng getting a bit peevish with Soubry. Feeling patronised by her question, the poor love.

{Bets are open for where TM will poke the money she was going to stuff into DUP's G-string for this weeks' vote...}

Oh please, the visuals and I've just had tea and now feeling distinctly queasy!

DD and his circular firing squad in the SAS TA !

If his unit has ever been called up for a real war, I expect he would have been mysteriously shot in the back very early on, out of sheer self-preservation.

Murrison - Govt intention that Stormont will have a role in moving forward in the Brexit discussions. Would this be a change to the deal?

Seemed a set-up question?

Soubry - In the extremely likely event WA doesn't do through, what would the purpose be (she's saying it like she's spelling it out to a child)...

Kwarteng - We haven't asked for it yet, and when we do so we will have a debate on the SI next week and there will be ample opportunity to debate the SI next week

Third Brexit vote must be different - Speaker

www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47614074

In a surprise ruling, he said he would not allow a third Brexit vote in the coming days on "substantially the same" motion as MPs rejected last week.

SI = statutory instrument

@wheresmymojo - I hope someone asks the question that we're all asking.....what are you going to use the extension for?!?

The EU certainly will. Patience is wearing thin at this stage. An extension to continue the farce that is currently taking place in HoC will not be acceptable.

Oh - I'm late :)

My head hurts and my shopping list for tomorrow's last of the stockpiling shop is rather large 😩