So May has lost the vote. Now what?!

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Lost it by a big margin - 391 to 242.

Please, God, that means we're nearer to staying in the EU.

Reports coming out today suggest that Barnier and Co have said that's it - that is the offer on the table, which May agreed to after all, and there is no more negotiation. I am not sure therefore that May can go for a third, fourth or fifth attempt.

Personally - I’d now take the ‘no deal’ route and take our chances.

Personally - I’d now take the ‘no deal’ route and take our chances.

Because it's so much better than staying for the UK?

Or maybe you’d make his life a misery because you now had the upper hand?

It's not about making life a misery, but you wouldn't feel obligated to find him a place to stay and help him move out, would you?

Or maybe you’d make his life a misery because you now had the upper hand?

You'd need to be vindictive. The EU haven't been. They simply protected the GFA and their own rules.

& don’t forget - if they do take the revenge route, remainers will pay too.

The EU is fully aware that millions of British people support the EU. They are also aware that millions of EU citizens will continue to live in Britain (including the complex situation of NI born people identifying as Irish). Another issue Brexiteers have failed to comprehend.

That is just incredibly reckless. Apart from all the practical reasons not to go down the no deal route, the country is way too divided. It would be catastrophic.

To Lweji

Do you think voters spent hours, days, weeks or even months researching? Doubt it. Many will have based their decision on:

What they heard on TV
What they read in the press
Mistrust of UK politicians
Dislike of EU being run by Brussels
Racism

Personally - I’d now take the ‘no deal’ route and take our chances.

Should have put that on the side of red bus 2.5 years ago. Jump off a cliff - you might die or maybe you'll just break your legs. Anything is better than full mobility and health.

Do you think voters spent hours, days, weeks or even months researching? Doubt it.

I didn't say I think they did. I said they didn't do enough research.
I even doubt most listened to debates other than cheering for Brexit like you do for a football club.
Yes, I think they should have spent a few hours at least researching or listening to both sides, considering the major change they were voting for.
If I was going to vote for an exit from the EU I'd want to be pretty damn sure I was voting for the best outcome. Not a vague idea.
So, I have little sympathy for people who claim they were "lied to".

Should have put that on the side of red bus 2.5 years ago. Jump off a cliff - you might die or maybe you'll just break your legs. Anything is better than full mobility and health

You misunderstood the post made which was

“I’d now take the no deal route....”

They did not say they wanted no deal in 2016.

I too would take the no deal route now

{Human nature is a funny thing.
& don’t forget - if they do take the revenge route, remainers will pay too.}

What so many are forgetting is that if you live in the UK you are currently a member of the EU, you are arguing with yourself!
It is not an 'us versus them' scenario.

{Dislike of EU being run by Brussels}
The EU is (partly) run FROM Brussels, which is a different thing altogether.

I too would take the no deal route now

Even though the UK is completely unprepared for it?

We’ve been preparing for a no deal brexit for months.

Let's hope for a revocation of A.50 or a 2nd referendum. I just don't understand anyone who would opt to leave the EU at a time when China, Russia and the US are so economically, politically and militarily dangerous. Within the EU we have equally access and a support to one of the world's largest trading blocks outside of that we are weak. Not to mention the direct social and economic benefits of being in the EU.

I too would take the no deal route now

My analogy about jumping off a cliff still stands. The Brexit vote was on the basis on making "things" better not plunging the country into economic hardship if no agreement could be reached. Remember now, "we" held all the cards.

We’ve been preparing for a no deal brexit for months.

Does that include the thousand of workers likely to be consigned to the dole queue? The NI border?

Even though the UK is completely unprepared for it?

Did UK think rationing would last for 9 years after end of WWII? Probably not, but they survived.

Did UK think rationing would last for 9 years after end of WWII? Probably not, but they survived.

That's the spirit! I suppose Hitler also did the UK a favour.

Those shouting for a 2nd referendum what will you do if once again the majority is leave?

Brexit: We Survived.

It's like telling a pp to LTB because her husband has an opinion on how the house should be decorated and run.
They'll have to move, pay for separate homes, swap children at weekends, live alone, do the homework for a whole house, etc but at least the pp would always have the only say.

‘No deal’ now for me too.

Those shouting for a 2nd referendum what will you do if once again the majority is leave?

Surely a 2nd referendum would pose a question with more specific options.
In this case:
a) Brexit with no deal
b) Brexit with the deal May obtained
c) remain

Or only two options out of those three.

If the majority was leave in a second referendum the government would claim their hands were tied respecting the will of the people. "The people" could then be held responsible for the catastrophic consequences rather than the wifully incompetent government that brought about the first referendum.

Nearly 50 million of the UK population didn't vote for this and right now it looks like a disaster. I say 2nd referendum ...a binding referendum ... and lower voting age to 16. Good chunk of the 17 million that voted for this mess are dead now!